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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    1. Held der Arbeit #GTTO‏ @HeldinEU Sep 17
      Replying to @nw_nicholas

      Having it?

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    2. Mr Ethical‏Verified account @nw_nicholas Sep 17
      Replying to @HeldinEU

      probably

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Held der Arbeit #GTTO‏ @HeldinEU Sep 17
      Replying to @nw_nicholas

      I recommend it

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Mr Ethical‏Verified account @nw_nicholas Sep 17
      Replying to @HeldinEU

      will do

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
      Replying to @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      I'd recommend reading this Cochrane Review (gold standard of reviews, apparently) before you settle on a decision. There's a reason so many NHS workers refuse the flu jab, despite the inordinate level of pressure imposed upon them. > https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD001269.pub6/full …

      3 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    6. Kerrie‏ @kkstuart Sep 17
      Replying to @C7RKY @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      This study was based on healthy individuals John. Dangerous to advise when you do not know the medical history of the individual.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
      Replying to @kkstuart @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      All I've advised is to read the Cochrane review before settling on a decision. Does that seem unreasonable?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Kerrie‏ @kkstuart Sep 17
      Replying to @C7RKY @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      Yes John it does because not all will understand the study and may deter them from getting a life saving vaccination. How many will read that report and miss that it’s carried out in patients with no health issues?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
      Replying to @kkstuart @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      If there's one thing I know about @nw_nicholas, it's that he's not daft. I'm sure he can discern the right thing to do for himself, whether from the likely computer-generated letter he received, from the Cochrane review, or from a healthcare professional. He's a big boy.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Kerrie‏ @kkstuart Sep 17
      Replying to @C7RKY @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      have no idea why you are saying this to me,my criticism was of you not him and as twitter is a public forum where casual observers may take your selective study and apply it to themselves I wished to point out how dangerous this could be.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
      Replying to @kkstuart @nw_nicholas @HeldinEU

      I'm going to remove @nw_nicholas from this thread, just so we don't fill up his timeline with our debate. But he and anyone else who cares to do so can still follow it below if they wish.

      8:40 PM - 17 Sep 2018
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        2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          I accept your point about this being a public forum. I'll consider how I present such evidence in future but present it I still shall, because the danger is relative imho. Relative to NHS's blind promotion of flu vaccine to all & sundry, regardless of lack of scientific evidence.

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

          Key word there being 'scientific'. No matter what these studies show, or even the empirical reviews of them, when a similar amount of studies remain selectively hidden, it undermines the findings of those we can see. It frankly allows for scientific fraud.https://twitter.com/C7RKY/status/1026110708294012928 …

          John Clarke added,

          John Clarke @C7RKY
          Replying to @doctorcaldwell @DrUmeshPrabhu and 28 others
          The marketing con is just the final con. Big pharma, 'scientific'? "Again and again, we have evidence of unpublished results that, when combined with the published results, make the drugs suddenly look not only no longer effective but harmful" Fiona Godlee https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmpubacc/uc295-i/uc295.pdf …
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        4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          Cochrane has some questions to answer over its recent HPV vaccine review it seems, but they've always struck me as relatively objective in reviewing the studies they can see. Even that poses questions re some NHS recommendations, let alone what unpublished studies might also add.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 17
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          That somebody with COPD for example has cause to avoid catching the flu is obvious. Whether or not the flu vaccine will help them achieve that is an entirely other question. One to which we have no scientific answer. Just 6 selectively published studies, from 14+ years ago.

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Sarah Jane Glass #wearebritishjews #GTTO‏ @SarahJaneGlass2 Sep 18
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          Is it just flu vaccine that you have issue with? How do feel about, say, polio or smallpox vaccinations? Do you think they are effective?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 18
          Replying to @SarahJaneGlass2 @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          Not at all. My concerns about lack of scientific underpinnings extend across the range of pharmaceutical interventions. Not limited to vaccines, but the flu jab is a regular discussion point for obvious reasons.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Sarah Jane Glass #wearebritishjews #GTTO‏ @SarahJaneGlass2 Sep 18
          Replying to @C7RKY @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          Correct me if I’m being dim but my understanding of your answer is that you don’t believe in the efficacy of smallpox and polio vaccines. Can you elaborate please

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        9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 18
          Replying to @SarahJaneGlass2 @kkstuart @HeldinEU

          Eh? That's a bit of a leap. Some things prove their worth by virtue of their performance in the subsequent 'big trial' - public release. Other don't. Vioxx springs to mind.http://www.theweek.co.uk/us/46535/when-half-million-americans-died-and-nobody-noticed …

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