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John Clarke
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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    1. Dr Gordon Caldwell‏ @doctorcaldwell Sep 8
      Replying to @katemasters67 @drkathrynmannix and

      Respect form says something uselessly vague like ‘Plans for a Future Emergency’ A fractured RIGHT wrist in a frail person living alone is a common emergency, is that what the form is for? Why not be frank ‘What I want done if I am found dying’ @DrMarkTaubert @hospicedoctor

      5 replies 2 retweets 9 likes
    2. Dr Gordon Caldwell‏ @doctorcaldwell Sep 9
      Replying to @doctorcaldwell @katemasters67 and

      It’s such a relief to get support from you bright intelligent compassionate human beings. Sometimes I wonder if it is me lost my reason and that @ResusCouncilUK @gmcuk @nmcnews have everything correct balanced human and sensible about End of Life & Dying I do try to Respect them

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Jennifer Richards‏ @Jennife10651535 Sep 9
      Replying to @doctorcaldwell @katemasters67 and

      Yes,I completely agree that I want something along those lines. Having had a conversation with GP about DNACPR this week I realize the acute limitations this imposes

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Sep 9
      Replying to @Jennife10651535 @doctorcaldwell and

      What kind of limitations?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Jennifer Richards‏ @Jennife10651535 Sep 9
      Replying to @katemasters67 @doctorcaldwell and

      That a DNACPR made in a GP's surgery won't be available to EM medics

      3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    6. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Sep 9
      Replying to @Jennife10651535 @doctorcaldwell and

      Yes that’s a major problem. The patient has to own this process, making sure that it’s available to anyone who may need it. Most common place for them to look is the fridge. @lionsclubs do have schemes ‘message in a bottle’ in some areas.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Jennifer Richards‏ @Jennife10651535 Sep 9
      Replying to @katemasters67 @doctorcaldwell and

      Still needs modification if collapse is outside the home

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Sep 9
      Replying to @Jennife10651535 @doctorcaldwell and

      Gordon’s been suggesting a medic alert style bracelet for a while.. it is very wrong that the concentration is on saving life re CPR, not protecting people who should not receive it. Even kids are being taught CPR (but not when not to use it)

      2 replies 3 retweets 5 likes
    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 9
      Replying to @katemasters67 @Jennife10651535 and

      How long before somebody takes a paramedic (or even a schoolchild now) to court for assault? Is there not an argument that once formally refused, CPR should be treated like any other unconsented medical procedure? It's at least a variation on a theme.

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Kathryn Mannix‏ @drkathrynmannix Sep 9
      Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and

      Legally, it's battery (E&W) to administer any treatment that a person has refused when competent, including failure to respect an ADRT. Of course, this assumes there's a way to ensure ADRT is known about to be respected. @TorButlerCole can clarify with more knowledge & eloquence.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Sep 9
      Replying to @drkathrynmannix @katemasters67 and

      Indeed it is. Trespass against the person, as I understand it. But I take your point about awareness of the ADRT or DNACPR status. Although awareness of it and respecting it don't always go hand-in-hand, as @MikeStone2_EoL will tell you.

      4:29 AM - 9 Sep 2018
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        2. Mike Stone‏ @MikeStone2_EoL Sep 10
          Replying to @C7RKY @drkathrynmannix and

          @DrMarkTaubert mentioned these tweets to me, but not where - found them, working my way through them, just responded to the previous one and then move on to 'as Mike will tell you' here! Btw @TorButlerCole has acted for the RC(UK) - and I think RC(UK) has got the law wrong.

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        3. Mike Stone‏ @MikeStone2_EoL Sep 10
          Replying to @MikeStone2_EoL @C7RKY and

          Lawyers will wear whatever pair of briefs their client hands to them - even if said undergarment is full of holes and the waist-elastic is completely gone.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Jennifer Richards‏ @Jennife10651535 Sep 10
          Replying to @MikeStone2_EoL @C7RKY and

          I know that only too well. My son is an attorney doing, inter alia,medical defense work ( in US)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Mike Stone‏ @MikeStone2_EoL Sep 10
          Replying to @Jennife10651535 @C7RKY and

          I read MCA/EoL-related court rulings, and it is a challenge to first identify 'pure sophistry', and in some cases to then to discern a coherent logical thread being developed by the judge(s). Throw in 'out-of-context selective quoting' of past cases https://www.dignityincare.org.uk/Discuss-and-debate/Dignity-Champions-forum/A-paper-by-Kitzinger-et-al-about-the-Briggs-ruling-and-MCA-best-interests-is-well-worth-reading-and-my-but-if-you-were-a-welfare-attorney-analytical-tricktool./950/ …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Jennifer Richards‏ @Jennife10651535 Sep 10
          Replying to @MikeStone2_EoL @C7RKY and

          Otherwise known as 'precedents'

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Mike Stone‏ @MikeStone2_EoL Sep 10
          Replying to @Jennife10651535 @C7RKY and

          Put really simply - deciphering court rulings is incredibly tricky: but normal family-carers are legally required to apply the MCA: hence my argument at https://www.dignityincare.org.uk/Discuss-and-debate/Dignity-Champions-forum/A-paper-by-Kitzinger-et-al-about-the-Briggs-ruling-and-MCA-best-interests-is-well-worth-reading-and-my-but-if-you-were-a-welfare-attorney-analytical-tricktool./950/ … See also https://www.dignityincare.org.uk/Discuss-and-debate/Dignity-Champions-forum/MCA-Best-Interests-compressed-to-a-single-sentence-an-ansatz/972/ …pic.twitter.com/KO0Fh28SFO

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