Not when some try to push forward proposals, which if had been in place years ago, would have resulted in making money out of my dead family? Now I am reading about allegations of someone lying about setting up WBUK ?#Trustgone Minimalising these issues is not on.
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You get absolutely nothing but if you whistleblow against something, lose everything because of it, it kinda sticks in your craw when someone pops up and says “you’re not really a whistleblower”.
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Does it? I don't think anybody's ever referred to me as a WBer & I know I haven't. Is there something you feel you missed out on in terms of protections by being denied the recognition of WB status? What would've been different?
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None whatsoever. It’s just when you get the clique saying “I’m a WB but you’re not”, that a balkanisation of WBs is being set up.
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Oh, ok. Personally I think it can be an even harder journey as a complainant. We're still trying to fell the same beast, but without the benefit of insider knowledge with which to do it. If we expose truth from outside the walls, it's at least equally credit-worthy, imho.
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You can follow Policy & PIDA and blow the whistle making protected disclosures, BUT unless the ET/Courts confirm that you are a whistleblower and did make protected disclosures, you have none of the protection afforded by PIDA......
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Ok. Forgive my ignorance... but has a non-employee ever been granted PIDA protection by having some kind of protected disclosure recognised? (Appreciating that PIDA protections don't exactly appear to be universally celebrated anyway).
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The word iatrogenic is key here! But the way forward for whistleblowers & complainants is not PIDA, its always been personal injury (unions wont tell you). We are still being damaged by a sytem, that effects us post WBing & this judgement applies to us all http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/2008/13.html …
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When I challenged
@WhistleUK (PCAW) that their whistleblower policy that LBG used didn’t reflect case law, guaranteeing employer win at any ET, they said “well, we didn’t want to make it too legalistic”. Touché & why only 4% of WB’s successful at ET -
Spent some years with LBG myself. To be clear, I understand the importance of acquiring that status for employees (and therefore why it matters so much when co.s have an open goal at ET). I'm less clear about how non-employees like me would fit into the whistleblowing definition.
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I exposed the fact that our NHS consenting process is open to abuse & eventually forced CQC/NHSE/GMC to acknowledge it. Does that make me a WBer? I've never thought of myself in that way - just as a complainant with a moral obligation to protect others. Am I missing something?
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You are absolutely right, I've always advocated a unity essentially we the same thing. To me a complainant os some1 who moans that his soup is too cold. But if like yourself & many others, you document the errors and present it to right authority, then yes you are whistleblower
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The word "whistleblower" is it seems an International media word. The word whistleblower is not found in UK Employment legislation. The discussions were around The Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998 (PIDA), which relates to employment law only as per the statute books.
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Even though I had made my disclosures precisely as trained and as per the LBG whistleblower policy. Judge accepted case law and denied me WB status. PCAW & FCA aware of my judgement and what it exposes. They’ve done nothing.
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Just clicked on the Twitter handle and found I am blocked as well, absolutely no reason for it. Lol
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The same John - NOTHING!!!
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This denied me whistleblower status & appropriate compensation. The case law actually opposes PIDA & the PCAW model whistleblower policy. LBG essentially argued that their own WB policy was a fraud because I hadn’t made disclosures in correct way according to case law......
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I followed LBG whistleblower policy to the letter. A policy that told employees we had protection & told us how to blow the whistle to ensure that protection. I also had confos from LBG, FCA & PCAW confirming I was a whistleblower. HOWEVER, I wasn’t according to ET case law......
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