I have to disagree with you here John. Vaccinations, unless there is a strong medical reason not to, protect society as a whole. Antivaccers are putting those most vulnerable (babies) at risk by allowing their kids to be vectors for diseases that used to be all but eliminated.
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A strong medical reason such as having to watch your own child being brain damaged before your very eyes? You don't have to be anti-vaccine to be concerned by associated adverse reactions being downplayed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRjn_gIJw0 …
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Agree if you could know that would happen before hand. Vaccination is not without risk but has overwhelmingly proven to be safe when balancing the risks. It doesn't mean he's always wrong but Posey is a conservative Republican from Florida who believes MMR causes autism.
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Overwhelmingly proven to be safe? Hmmm. And how would we know that? I'd prefer to see you playing the ball not the man with Posey. Commenting on thousands of documents from a CDC Chief Scientist whistleblower is not merely his personal opinion for me.https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1018486942151868423?s=21 …
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Playing the ball: Posey's belief that MMR is related to autism has no scientific basis. Also as someone else as already mentioned - we can't forget the dangers the diseases pose:https://twitter.com/etxberria55/status/1034076882529075200?s=21 …
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As I think I've made clear in my responses, I don't forget the dangers diseases pose - hence why my son received all vaccinations up to and including MMR. But no scientific basis? CDC Chief Scientist sounds pretty scientific to me. And compared to what? >https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1018486942151868423?s=21 …
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1 in 10000 measles sufferers will develop SSPE a severe encephalitis 4-5 % of mumps cases suffer pancreatitis UK 43 deaths from measles in last year
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Furthermore post pubertal males who develop bilateral orchitis run the risk of infertility 30-80% depending on series and severity Rubella is a cause of severe foetal abnormalities if contracted in early pregnancy : it is down to risk benefit analysis
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I don't deny obvious risks attached to such diseases. Who would? But I think your last point is key. It's our risk/benefit decision to make - esp post-Montgomery ruling, now a reasonable patient's take on risk is elevated above previous Bolam thinking. Can't do that w/o all facts
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The problem with vaccination is that it is the herd immunity and with 1 in 20 children under 5 suffering measles pneumonitis most common COD
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Again, it's not that I don't appreciate the risks on that side of the debate - they are made clear at every opportunity and are terrifying for most parents. I just believe the risks disclosed are entirely 1-sided. Unreasonably so, imho.
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But as you've already shared, the risks and statistics are public knowledge and overwhelming the statistical risk of not immunising is far worse. I'm afraid I'm with the Australian government on this issue. Like any form of regulation, wider public welfare has to be considered.
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The *advertised* risks and statistics are public knowledge, yes. But I am far from alone in doubting them. No greater good argument will ever sound anything other than hollow when you're the ones having to spend a lifetime dealing with the underplayed consequences, I'm afraid.
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I see you.
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But we could be in the same bubble.
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I was just mulling that very point actually. No reason to hide tweets from people who already know what I think - just from those who don't.
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Yeah. My interaction is very limited too outside of the usual suspects.
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