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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    1. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      I saw it previously, though, sadly I couldn't access it.

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    2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      Oh no, you too? I'm really going to have to get my IT act together if I'm going to start doing things like this. Don't suppose this PDF version works for you? I've had to resort to email earlier - which you're welcome to if this doesn't work. https://1drv.ms/b/s!Al9MeK9ofDhMph8an0I5r1mbfpSs …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      t requires me to sign in to Microsoft and its a real bum ache.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      Fair enough. Guess I'd better start getting my head around Dropbox then, eh?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY @Alembisque

      Low and behold, I just found I already have it in my phone. Is this link any good?https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca70n2do7e4eyz3/Dear%20Gordon%20Letter.pdf?dl=0 …

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    6. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      Got it, ta. Will have a good read a bit later. I think these conversations are vital, but sadly they don't tend to go beyond a few people outside of medicine.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      There are a growing number of us taking an interest. Sadly, for all the wrong reasons initially, but hey... we're here now. So let's fix some things, I say.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      Amen to that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY

      Read your reply to @doctorcaldwell. I find both letters interesting. There is a problem of cognitive dissonance from a Clapham bus perspective which is hard to dispell, but this is discrete issue in a complex web of systemic failure.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

      There is an argument that had little Jack not died, but her errors were still made, at what level of negligence would they have been assessed? The perceived negligence is predicated by outcome and this is where all Drs feel the 'There but the grace' brush past their cheek.

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque @doctorcaldwell

      I understand every word individually in your first tweet, but can't understand what you mean. Can you elaborate? And grossly negligent acts/omissions are still gross negligence, regardless of outcome. A resultant death adds manslaughter on the end of the consequence, imho.

      11:44 PM - 14 Aug 2018
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        2. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          Ok. In our heads we have to get round the fact that a Dr can be convicted fro gross negligence whilst still being competent particularly if there were system issues which let them down and where their actions were not due to arrogance or maliciousness. The public's mindset is ..

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        3. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          ..negligence=incompetence without considering the wider picture of the system which contributed to Jack's death. There is a very strong natural underlying reaction where children are concerned which intensifies this dissonance.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          Indeed we have no way of knowing what Jack's chance of survival was in this instance, he had been ill for a while before being brought into hospital, had the antibiotics been used from the outset in a paediatric ICU

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        5. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          Lets say I'm driving having had my eyes tested for cataracts and not been told to stop driving and the DVLA informed. True story, but thankfully this next bit didn't happen as I took myself off the road, but say had carried on driving and then had an accident

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        6. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          For which I am prosecuted. £1000 minimum fine for defective eyesight. The Dr who had been assessing the development of my cataracts said they were"not ready for surgery" nor did they inform DVLA. I insisted on a referral, and they were very ready.

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        7. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          Cataracts done and back on the road six months later driving competently, I trust. Two levels of competence, the system for not referring me and me for having an accident whilst my eyesight is impaired. The public might be alarmed nay horrified that this had happened, but......

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        8. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          would not be unduly alarmed at me returning to the roads. OK the difference in magnitude is very clear, but the underlying principles are similar. Now in my case I realised I had been driving with my vision impaired and took myself off the road and avoided a £1000 fine.

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        9. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 15
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          The level of negligence was the same even if the outcomes were different. Competence being predicated on outcomes. Within the NHS there is a massive problem with staffing and this is not the fault of the staff and we all recognise that errors of all sorts are bound to escalate.

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