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    1. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 13
      Replying to @Alembisque

      The Panorama piece didn't scratch the surface and I'm not left with the same 'balanced' feeling you obviously were. But the public aren't daft. We know what GNM is and whether or not we want a child of ours treating by a doctor convicted of it. Public confidence is the issue now.

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    2. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 13
      Replying to @C7RKY

      The balance came from allowing voices to be heard and beyond that it would take a full independent, if there is such a thing, inquiry. The system closed ranks for sure as it has done many times worsened by fear of litigation and reputation.

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    3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      You'll get no argument from me on the system closing ranks. That's apparent. But I'm afraid Jack's mum and dad vs multiple clinicians and a clinical interviewer... well. Didn't really scream balanced to me. Nobody else speaking on their behalf? At all? Hmmm...

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    4. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      True, but at one level their story is simple. Their very much loved boy died and for them he would still be alive if a 'competent' doctor had been on duty to make the right decisions. Why that was not so is a different and complex story having many layers. From government down.

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    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      It's the NHS. There are always multiple complexities we can debate. But this needn't be complex and getting distraught parents to tell their own story has clear benefits, but equally clear drawbacks. As to 'why that was not so' the courts have examined that & found BG guilty. >>

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    6. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      Jury! Maybe.

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    7. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      That's right. That's how courts work when somebody gets convicted of manslaughter. For all of us. Doctors included.

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    8. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      True, but so difficult for a jury in cases like this. Was this a mistake or a judgement call that wasn't back up by a good system. I can't say, but there are genuine questions which require some detailed, cool reflection. Confidence has taken another knock.

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    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

      GNM is none of those things according to the law I've been reading about. I've had cause to do some of that cool reflecting you mention. I'd be really interested to hear what you think of how it came out, (if you can endure 7 pages of a reply)?https://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1028409578076160000?s=21 …

      John Clarke added,

      John Clarke @C7RKY
      Replying to @doctorcaldwell @SafetyCarm and 3 others
      .@doctorcaldwell Dear Gordon, I've spent considerably longer than your commute thinking about your letter entitled 'Mistakes Happen'. I can only hope this helps explain my perspective & I thank you for explaining yours. https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=4C387C68AF784C5F!4877&ithint=file%2cdocx&app=Word&authkey=!AJ1wnW1exT0tsis … #JackAdcock #BawaGarba #IsabelAmaro
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    10. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
      Replying to @C7RKY

      I saw it previously, though, sadly I couldn't access it.

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
      Replying to @Alembisque

      Oh no, you too? I'm really going to have to get my IT act together if I'm going to start doing things like this. Don't suppose this PDF version works for you? I've had to resort to email earlier - which you're welcome to if this doesn't work. https://1drv.ms/b/s!Al9MeK9ofDhMph8an0I5r1mbfpSs …

      1:43 AM - 14 Aug 2018
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        2. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
          Replying to @C7RKY

          t requires me to sign in to Microsoft and its a real bum ache.

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
          Replying to @Alembisque

          Fair enough. Guess I'd better start getting my head around Dropbox then, eh?

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        4. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
          Replying to @C7RKY @Alembisque

          Low and behold, I just found I already have it in my phone. Is this link any good?https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca70n2do7e4eyz3/Dear%20Gordon%20Letter.pdf?dl=0 …

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        5. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
          Replying to @C7RKY

          Got it, ta. Will have a good read a bit later. I think these conversations are vital, but sadly they don't tend to go beyond a few people outside of medicine.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 14
          Replying to @Alembisque

          There are a growing number of us taking an interest. Sadly, for all the wrong reasons initially, but hey... we're here now. So let's fix some things, I say.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
          Replying to @C7RKY

          Amen to that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY

          Read your reply to @doctorcaldwell. I find both letters interesting. There is a problem of cognitive dissonance from a Clapham bus perspective which is hard to dispell, but this is discrete issue in a complex web of systemic failure.

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        9. John Daniels #NHSLove‏ @Alembisque Aug 14
          Replying to @Alembisque @C7RKY @doctorcaldwell

          There is an argument that had little Jack not died, but her errors were still made, at what level of negligence would they have been assessed? The perceived negligence is predicated by outcome and this is where all Drs feel the 'There but the grace' brush past their cheek.

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