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    1. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
      Replying to @dr_shibley @C7RKY

      Is that ‘failure’ deliberate, to cause harm? Or in itself due to inexperience and limited knowledge? The Dunning-Kruger effect, along with lack of awareness of importance of features or effects. That’s exactly why juniors must be appropriately supervised

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    2. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @dr_shibley @C7RKY

      So is junior Dr, in unfamiliar environment, forced into unsupported decisions at limits (or beyond) their competency level because they are left to get on with it- have they made a conscious decision to take shortcuts knowing that would harm? That’s definition of Gross Negligence

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    3. shibs‏ @dr_shibley Aug 6
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @C7RKY

      I think it fits the legal definition

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    4. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
      Replying to @dr_shibley @C7RKY

      Then every junior is guilty of gross negligence, purely by nature of lack of knowledge and experience? The more you learn the more you realise you don’t know. That is purpose of ‘training’. The grossly negligent trainee is one who purposely rejects their learning needs

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    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 6
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @dr_shibley

      I see elsewhere that as an ST6, she was close to being a consultant. So just how inexperienced can we really consider her to be? Can't imagine she'd be convicted of GNM for not doing something she knew nothing about. Rather for failing to do something she ought to have known. No?

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    6. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Aug 6
      Replying to @C7RKY @Cjw450Cathy @dr_shibley

      Paediatrics is an 8 year training pathway btw. So not weeks/months off being a consultant

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    7. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
      Replying to @gourmetpenguin @C7RKY @dr_shibley

      Exactly- but to a lay-person, depending on who explaining, it might seem she’d done a lot already being >1/2 way! Dangers of ill-informed and sensationalising press

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Aug 6
      Replying to @Cjw450Cathy @gourmetpenguin @dr_shibley

      I would be such a lay person, tho I'm doing my best to avoid being ill informed - hence my questions. But I'm conscious that we're *all* ill informed without a transcript, unless we were in court. Something compelling got her convicted. I'm just trying to figure out what it was

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        1. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
          Replying to @C7RKY @gourmetpenguin @dr_shibley

          Lay-people are needed, but there is something to be said about jury of peers, and about adequate depiction of environment- natural human behaviour to simplify difficult or unfamiliar situations, and fill gaps with expectation or imagination based on personal understanding

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        1. Cathy Welch‏ @Cjw450Cathy Aug 6
          Replying to @C7RKY @gourmetpenguin @dr_shibley

          That will come out in the appeals. It would be interesting wresting to read the summing up transcripts, and the judges legal direction to the jury. Questions also about qualified ty of BG’s counsel, though that is just conjecture and hearsay. Not had opportunity to read in full

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