That's an interesting list - esp considering there appears to be complete non-compliance with those guidelines in this case. Have they any weight? Is it like GMC guidelines which one is obliged to account for?
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Replying to @C7RKY @hilaryklonn and
John - that’s one of the reasons why so many medics are concerned about this case. Clear lack of usual expected supervision. Amongst many many other failings that day.
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Replying to @TYoungstein @hilaryklonn and
Taryn - not as concerned as patients are. This is just 1 example of failure to follow a medical guideline. Among many, many other such failures that happen every day all over the UK without a peep from clinicians. And let's remember; the court accounted for mitigation here.pic.twitter.com/NOmDJ4Umyk
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Replying to @C7RKY @hilaryklonn and
NHS doctors are patients of the NHS too and so are our nearest and dearest. I don’t believe in this “them and us” division. It isn’t the case that there is not a peep from clinicians about individual or system failures. It was the basis for much of the Jr Dr contract debate.
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Replying to @TYoungstein @C7RKY and
I know that each NHS professional goes to work each day to do the absolute best they can for patients. What can we do when the system breaks and patients are harmed? That’s the crux of the matter, people are fed up hearing “lessons will be learned “. 1/2
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Replying to @lynn_laidlaw @TYoungstein and
People deserve and want answers, they want to know that lessons have been learned and no other family will go through what they have. How do we ensure that? How do we ensure that neither staff, patients or relatives are victims of circumstance.
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Replying to @lynn_laidlaw @C7RKY and
I don’t have all the answers.I do see progress wrt patient safety but I don’t think gross negligence manslaughter cases are the answer. I do think many forget that clinicians ARE patient safety advocates-caring for people motivated their career choice.This seems to have got lost.
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Replying to @TYoungstein @lynn_laidlaw and
That's your opinion, it's not based on the law that rules over us all. Landlords with 22 exceptionally bad failings resulting in death would almost certainly be in jail, standards matter.
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Replying to @Janine00050361 @lynn_laidlaw and
Thanks Janine.I totally agree standards matter-of course they do and I would never suggest they didn’t. Being a landlord with safety standards is not the same as the rapidly changing unstandardised clinical environment in which every patient is different & has different needs.
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Replying to @TYoungstein @lynn_laidlaw and
I'm not trivializing the amazing work of doctors but it's not only doctors who feel backed into a corner, of the back of this decision, the public do too.
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Good point. I think the reason seasoned NHS complainants are so aghast at events is because we know the courts are our only real way to get truth & accountability. We get neither from regulators and forget the trusts. So attempts to undermine the courts feel offensive/dangerous.
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