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Of course views all mine. All without prejudice. Just a regular chap after all. Oh...and RT's may equally imply ridicule as endorsement.

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    1. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 27
      Replying to @Meghpai @Janine00050361 @SkyNews

      Where did you get the transcripts? They should be shared in the public interest.

      2 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    2. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29
      Replying to @katemasters67 @Meghpai and

      John Clarke Retweeted John Clarke

      Very good question. Is there a transcript of the original Crown Court trial in circulation now? Which reminds me, @HodkinsonAlice, you never did answer this tweet. Do you have access to this transcript? #BawaGarbahttps://twitter.com/c7rky/status/1022980701287849985?s=21 …

      John Clarke added,

      John Clarke @C7RKY
      Replying to @HodkinsonAlice @etxberria55 and 2 others
      I can already see mention of your legal studies from your profile. So which was it? You have a transcript? Or you attended court? I've been eager to find either example for some time.
      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. Dr David Nicholl‏ @djnicholl Jul 29
      Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and

      No non-lawyer, not even Mrs Adcock, (unless they have a bucketload of £) has access to court transcripts. The legal arguments are interesting https://www.timjohnson-law.com/bawa-garba  as are what evidence was and was not used, likewise for expert witness statements that were not used. #BawaGarba

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 29
      Replying to @djnicholl @C7RKY and

      Good to know it’s not actually forthcoming as previously stated! Was hoping to read the ‘why’ Dr BG was found to be ‘truly exceptionally bad’ but I guess we will never know.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29
      Replying to @katemasters67 @djnicholl and

      It's not? Why not? That seemed to be broadly agreed before I took my Twitter break. I don't see how this campaign can be seen as anything other than blind support without it, frankly. Who know's what's unwittingly being defended here without that transcript?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Jul 29
      Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and

      I think the short answer is, it simply doesn't matter. Evidence based approaches are speedily punted off the nearest bridges when (some) medics feel exposed.

      2 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
    7. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Jul 29
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @C7RKY and

      Like Nicola Adock said this week, where were all these medics when BawaGarba was on trial for 5 weeks? Such a self-serving response it makes my teeth ache.

      1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
    8. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @katemasters67 and

      John Clarke Retweeted DrCarmenSoto

      There may be reason for some not attending, to be fair. But any of us not in attendance during those weeks can't claim to know all the facts, whatever the reason.https://twitter.com/gourmetpenguin/status/1022962707975294976?s=21 …

      John Clarke added,

      DrCarmenSoto @gourmetpenguin
      Replying to @C7RKY @HodkinsonAlice and 3 others
      My memory is that we were actively discouraged from attending (unlike the nursing team who made sure there was someone there everyday). Also wouldn’t have been possible to take 4 weeks away from floor
      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    9. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Jul 29
      Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and

      It wasn't just about attendance though. No outcry (or apparent interest) when the GNM charge was given. Just tumbleweed until erasure.

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    10. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
      Replying to @sarasiobhan @C7RKY and

      There was locally.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29
      Replying to @gourmetpenguin @sarasiobhan and

      Over the years I've been watching, news like this has always travelled very fast around the medical world. There are usually a dozen articles written by outraged clinicians within a couple of days, decrying any perceived wrong. How did this case come to be the exception?

      2:12 PM - 29 Jul 2018
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        2. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
          Replying to @C7RKY @sarasiobhan and

          It's hard to know about cases unless the situation makes it through to people who 1) have access to, and 2) are prepared to share in the (medical) press. Wouldn't have occurred to me to do that

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Jul 29
          Replying to @gourmetpenguin @C7RKY and

          I dunno. It made national news at the time.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jack-adcock-trial-doctor-hadiza-bawa-garba-found-guilty-of-causing-manslaughter-by-gross-negligence-a6720876.html …

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        4. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
          Replying to @sarasiobhan @C7RKY and

          That wasn't at the time - that was when the court case happened. Years later

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Dr Sara Ryan‏ @sarasiobhan Jul 29
          Replying to @gourmetpenguin @C7RKY and

          Yes. And there was still no medic outrage at this point.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
          Replying to @sarasiobhan @C7RKY and

          Locally, there was. Within the Trust and the Deanery, there was.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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        8. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29

          So why didn't the cavalry come galloping over the hill at that time, do you think? They've arrived in force to make an extra time appeal on the erasure, but not a single out-of-town soldier appeared to be in sight for the conviction. It all seems very odd tbh.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
          Replying to @C7RKY @sarasiobhan and

          Can't comment on why others have suddenly got involved. And in the scheme of things, it's minor. A child died. And I can't see that there is anything to stop those circumstances happening again

          1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
        10. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 29
          Replying to @gourmetpenguin @sarasiobhan and

          You made similar comment before. Has nothing at all been changed in response to this case which will help prevent a repeat then? It's hard to conceive that the inaction could persist beyond the court case.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 29
          Replying to @C7RKY @gourmetpenguin and

          Leicester Mercury have covered it and there has been medics doing blogs etc. BMJ have a couple. They are sadly not journalistically objective. And heartbreakingly some didn’t mention Jack much. Nothing from patients. I’d be too scared.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        3. DrCarmenSoto‏ @gourmetpenguin Jul 29
          Replying to @katemasters67 @C7RKY and

          I think that fear is widespread (personal view)

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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