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    1. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jul 19
      Replying to @DebHazeldine @C7RKY @katemasters67

      I think it would be variable. Until there is accountability, responsibility for when this doesn't happen. What is allowed will continue. That's not blame, scapegoating. To err is human, to deny, defend, delay is a choice. Families don't have a choice. Inner peace relies on truth

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    2. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 19
      Replying to @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      But we’d never know, because it’s a safe space and taking info out of it is prohibited.

      2 replies 2 retweets 2 likes
    3. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      Any ‘safe space’ has to be inclusive of patients and/or families or it won’t work. My perceived safety threat has never been from patients & families, it has been from senior healthcare professionals & person-centred, name, blame & shame centred incident investigations.

      2 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
    4. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 19
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      Even with patient/family involvement it’s not a fair playing field. The trust holds the records, knowledge, access to legal advice, access to future treatment. The patient ..?

      2 replies 4 retweets 4 likes
    5. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      Those issues certainly need dealing with, nurturing a safe, open culture will help. Re legal costs, most certainly not a level playing field, heavily weighted against most patients & families.

      2 replies 3 retweets 2 likes
    6. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 19
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      But how will we know if it’s an open culture or a black hole?

      2 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    7. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♂️ other than to say registered nurses are professionally obliged to advocate for patients, not employers / other HCP’s. That is what they must do and what patients should expect.

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    8. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jul 19
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @DebHazeldine @C7RKY

      If the NHS is emulating the airline industry the safety the first thing it should adopt is making it a legal requirement for staff to report safety issues - AAIB even have a hotline!

      3 replies 3 retweets 5 likes
    9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 19
      Replying to @katemasters67 @K_G_Spearpoint @DebHazeldine

      Ironic really - it could be argued they don't even need it to be legal in the airline industry. Staff have a tendency to report things that they themselves might get killed by too. But no.. that's where there should be a legal requirement, not healthcare. Apparently?

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    10. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
      Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine

      This reflects open and safe culture, AAIB is a very mature organisation, which healthcare safety certainly isn’t

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      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 19
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine

      It's open, safe & mature because it recognises reality - they and their colleagues die too, if they're not so minded. Honesty ensues. No such motivation exists in healthcare. Self preservation there is best served by secrecy & cover-up. Safe space has no place in that mix, imho.

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        2. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
          Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine

          I recognise that same reality>I am an experienced HCP. Every single member of my family has received care in the NHS. I have had 2 major neuro ops. 2 of my daughters were in SCBU as newborns. Mrs S, 3 emergency ops. Our friends & family are patients too, we want the best care too

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jul 19
          Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine

          I do understand that Ken, but we both know that if that influence were prevalent throughout the NHS, then none of the seemingly endless supply of scandals which continue to emerge would've been allowed to happen. Some greater force clearly exists.

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        4. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jul 19
          Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine

          The relentless pressure on those at the blunt end to meet financial targets has played a part. The prevalent name, blame & shame culture has played a part. Egotistical posturing has played a part. The developing safety culture at least gives us hope.

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        5. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jul 19
          Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @C7RKY @katemasters67

          Agree gives us hope, I'm definitely not losing that! Remember, over many years being told categorically, you won't be ever get a public inquiry into midstaffs.

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