Sorry - what exactly is being suggested here? 'Shouldn't judge'? Is conducting these conversations not now established to be a lawful requirement?
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Or the funeral industry, or crematorium staff.
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Quite. Certainly not something I'd expect to be beyond the abilities of a trained clinician tbh. And if it is, then the training needs to be reflected upon, imho.
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Yes – I don't see why discussing DNACPR should be more difficult than other discussions about other treatment options to plump for or not. Eg discussing not to offer surgery to someone who the clinician doesn't feel it would benefit?
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That sounds so rational, but the reality is that it is difficult. I have spoken with surgeons who are totally fine with not offering surgery as won’t help (and patient likely to die), but still want patients to have CPR.

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Eh? Even - to borrow a phrase - where it's considered clinically futile? Why? What am I missing?
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Psychology / emotion / the things that make us human
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I'd need to better understand that. Considering all the other psychologically challenging / emotional tasks clinicians undertake, which may quite literally include brain surgery, this seems far from exceptional - not to downplay its difficulty for some.
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I don’t think you will ever ‘get it’
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Good grief how on earth can you compare this highly sensitive often painful subject to the insurance industry peddling their products for profit.
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Because Aidan, in the pursuit of excellence we don't rule out any potential source/industry in the pursuit of securing every possible improvement. There is no obligation to throw out the baby with the bath water, just because you don't like the look of the bath water. That's how.
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