>>"Despite my experience in elderly care I had never heard of a syringe driver It was also clear to me that any pt put onto a syringe driver would die shortly after During whole time I worked there I do not recall a single instance of a pt not dying having been put onto a driver"
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"Having reached agreement, [between 2 trained members of nursing staff that a patient required the use of a syringe driver), then the driver would be set up. The needle would be inserted into the patients back so as to make it impossible for it to be removed."
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>> "I have witnessed disagreements between nurses... these disagreements would be resolved by the nurse requiring the syringe driver approaching a more senior nurse and obtaining their consent. Once that consent had been obtained then the syringe driver would be set up" >>
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>>"I have never known of a case where a staff member did not obtain permission to use a syringe driver from senior staff." I haven't found a single mention of the patient's consent to treatment in all this yet. Just talk of getting 'consent' from a senior nurse. Is this for real?
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>>Oh, ok... here it is. Looks like they probably *didn't* have the patient's consent to kill him then? There's a surprise. Jees... "Knowing [the patient] as I did I am confident that he to would not have allowed the introduction of a syringe driver had he known of the outcome."
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>>"[The patient] subsequently remained unconscious until his death. He lasted some while. Whilst accepting that I have no medical qualification I am concerned that he was certainly not in imminent fear of death when he allowed the syringe driver to be introduced." This is unreal
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