We need a starting point, it will take a very long time, there will be variability, but start we must.
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I’m a staunch advocate for learning, but I would not enter an investigation using the safe space and I would not suggest anyone else do it either.
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Can you articulate why you wouldn’t contribute in a ‘safe space’? It would be helpful to know.
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Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 and
For me, I refused to engage in trust's investigation anyway. For starters, I think it's unreasonable to expect relatives to engage with those they suspect of criminal activity. But also, huge legal resources & custody of records mean they have all the safe space they need, imho
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Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and
1. I Think this is why 'complaints' process needs to be independent. Would give more confidence to bereaved? Because 'marking own homework' hasn't historically proved a success in displaying, open and transparent. Identifying 'independent' not so easy, but just because >>
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Replying to @DebHazeldine @K_G_Spearpoint and
So true Deb. Tho I think custody of records issue is still a problem tbh. Doesn't matter how independent investigator is, if the records provided are not an accurate reflection of reality. Something I think safe space will make more likely, not less. Crap in/crap out & all that.
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Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and
Patients having their own copy of the notes, any investigations, could also help, when paperwork is mislaid? Two copies, to refer to.
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Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @DebHazeldine and
Actually, of the 2024 people who died 87-01 at Gosport, records were only found for 1564. And only 1043 contained sufficient info for the panel to work with. >So 460 missing altogether >Another 521 with items missing I have some serious questions about the 200 figure too.
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I honestly haven't made sense of the numbers yet. Just realised those last ones I gave you are wrong - there's a smaller group to be added to it. So... >2187 pts died >1148 records found (52%) >1039 missing/insufficient records (48%) >456 deaths (40% of available records) BUT...
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Replying to @C7RKY @MancunianMEDlC and
>>If you take the fact that 40% of the 1148 cases they WERE able to investigate resulted in determining staff actions had killed the patient & apply that to the 1039 they were unable to investigate, that would be an additional 412 deaths. not 200. What am I missing
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