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    1. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 24
      Replying to @katemasters67 @K_G_Spearpoint @drkimholt

      Safe spaces that include families? Understand the need to be able to speak out safely, openness and transparency etc. At this point though, how can 'system" expect bereaved to have faith, in a culture, where open and transparent is clear lacking, as has been seen many times.

      2 replies 4 retweets 4 likes
    2. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jun 25
      Replying to @DebHazeldine @katemasters67 @drkimholt

      100% Agree, yes, why not? Patients, families & front-line HCP’s working together would be a formidable platform for safety.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    3. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 25
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 @drkimholt

      Why not? Exactly, would this not give confidence, support to everyone needing it? Would display open & transparent? Never met anyone that wanted 'blame', but when 'systems' are simply not open & transparent, 'systems' simply can't continue the same way. #weallmatter

      1 reply 3 retweets 3 likes
    4. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jun 25
      Replying to @DebHazeldine @K_G_Spearpoint @drkimholt

      In current plan, Safe space for staff means protection, safe space for family means secrecy.

      1 reply 2 retweets 1 like
    5. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 25
      Replying to @katemasters67 @K_G_Spearpoint @drkimholt

      Well that's not exactly worked so far. Safe space for all to speak out, sharing all information. An open and transparent system should welcome this? Would give everyone confidence?

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    6. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jun 25
      Replying to @DebHazeldine @K_G_Spearpoint @drkimholt

      I just don’t think all of the NHS can be trusted to implement a safe space in a just and fair way.

      1 reply 3 retweets 8 likes
    7. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jun 25
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine and

      I’d love to see it work, I just don’t think we are anywhere near a place where I should be available to all.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    8. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jun 25
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine @drkimholt

      We need a starting point, it will take a very long time, there will be variability, but start we must.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    9. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jun 25
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @DebHazeldine @drkimholt

      I’m a staunch advocate for learning, but I would not enter an investigation using the safe space and I would not suggest anyone else do it either.

      2 replies 4 retweets 3 likes
    10. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jun 25
      Replying to @katemasters67 @DebHazeldine @drkimholt

      Can you articulate why you wouldn’t contribute in a ‘safe space’? It would be helpful to know.

      3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
      Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 and

      For me, I refused to engage in trust's investigation anyway. For starters, I think it's unreasonable to expect relatives to engage with those they suspect of criminal activity. But also, huge legal resources & custody of records mean they have all the safe space they need, imho

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        2. Ken Spearpoint RN BSc MSc MPhil‏ @K_G_Spearpoint Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @katemasters67 and

          Those are very reasonable & important points @C7RKY

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @K_G_Spearpoint @katemasters67 and

          Thank you Ken. :) Didn't matter as it turned out. Despite making it clear in writing that I hadn't complained yet, but would when I was ready, they opened a complaint without me, investigated it, found nothing wrong and closed it again. 9 days start to finish. I was on holiday.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        4. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and

          How does that work? Opening complaint, investigating without involving you? 🤔

          1 reply 2 retweets 1 like
        5. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @DebHazeldine @K_G_Spearpoint and

          Haha! Not just me then? Here's the last email I sent to them before going on holiday. I thought I made it clear enough. What do you think? (You'll see I still believed in regulators back then. Not so much now.)pic.twitter.com/drQZtSo7Md

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @DebHazeldine and

          But only days later, this was how they described their decision to investigate without me...pic.twitter.com/o1jKsa5kF3

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Kate Masters‏ @katemasters67 Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @DebHazeldine and

          simultaneous *eye roll and *face palm... some trusts could do a masterclass in 100 ways to sidestep responsibilities by misapplication of legislation.. thing is, they know these acts are inflammatory, we aren't likely to get anywhere and the effect on us is long term #evil

          2 replies 3 retweets 3 likes
        8. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 26
          Replying to @katemasters67 @C7RKY and

          What is allowed, will continue. Imagine all that time, effort, resources being used, to 'work' with, include families, who simply want the truth. It may be difficult conversations, but may I humbly suggest not nearly as difficult as living with unanswered questions.

          1 reply 2 retweets 1 like
        9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 27
          Replying to @DebHazeldine @katemasters67 and

          Spot on Deb. I always used to tell my managers that minimum standards are not what you say they are... they're what you're prepared to accept happening without taking action to stop it.

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        2. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and

          1. I Think this is why 'complaints' process needs to be independent. Would give more confidence to bereaved? Because 'marking own homework' hasn't historically proved a success in displaying, open and transparent. Identifying 'independent' not so easy, but just because >>

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        3. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @DebHazeldine @K_G_Spearpoint and

          So true Deb. Tho I think custody of records issue is still a problem tbh. Doesn't matter how independent investigator is, if the records provided are not an accurate reflection of reality. Something I think safe space will make more likely, not less. Crap in/crap out & all that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and

          Patients having their own copy of the notes, any investigations, could also help, when paperwork is mislaid? Two copies, to refer to.

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        6. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @DebHazeldine and

          Actually, of the 2024 people who died 87-01 at Gosport, records were only found for 1564. And only 1043 contained sufficient info for the panel to work with. >So 460 missing altogether >Another 521 with items missing I have some serious questions about the 200 figure too.

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        8. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @MancunianMEDlC @DebHazeldine and

          I honestly haven't made sense of the numbers yet. Just realised those last ones I gave you are wrong - there's a smaller group to be added to it. So... >2187 pts died >1148 records found (52%) >1039 missing/insufficient records (48%) >456 deaths (40% of available records) BUT...

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        9. John Clarke‏ @C7RKY Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @MancunianMEDlC and

          >>If you take the fact that 40% of the 1148 cases they WERE able to investigate resulted in determining staff actions had killed the patient & apply that to the 1039 they were unable to investigate, that would be an additional 412 deaths. not 200. What am I missing @davidhencke?

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        1. Deb Hazeldine‏ @DebHazeldine Jun 26
          Replying to @C7RKY @K_G_Spearpoint and

          2. Something may not be easy, doesn't mean it should be ruled out. Especially if all parts of the 'system' are determined to display openness and transparency.

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