No, it's a name that perpetuates the idea that if a woman shagged them then their anger wouldn't exist. It's bullshit. Call them, as per Maron, unfuckable hate nerds. Don't call them by the name with which they find each other online or one that wrongly diagnoses their problem.https://twitter.com/BrydieLK/status/989073529328095232 …
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Replying to @HadleyFreeman
It’s not just how they find each other. It’s how other people can find and avoid them. “Unfuckable hate nerds” applies to a whole host of awful men. “Incel”, as stupid a term as it is, applies to a growing group of awful men who are dangerous in specific ways.
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Replying to @BrydieLK
No, it's a name that reflects their idea that they are wrongly and unfairly denied sex by women, and this is the source of their anger. It's a crappy misogynistic name that we should not validate. Make up a different name for this subgroup - they don't get to define themselves
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Replying to @HadleyFreeman
But they exist. They have a name, as stupid as it is and we should know it so we can identify them. We can call the Proud Boys “unfuckable racist nerds” because we don’t want to use a name they gave themselves but doesn’t thay make it easier for them to hide in plain sight?
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Replying to @BrydieLK
We can know their name without validating it. Their name is based on misogyny so why perpetuate it? There are plenty of stupid names for racist groups - Aryan brotherhood, etc - but we don't all defer to them. We call them racists.Bigots don't get to self-define.We call them out.
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Replying to @HadleyFreeman
If someone from the Aryan Brotherhood commits a hate crime we say “this was done by a member of the racist group, the Aryan brotherhood.” Why wouldn’t we say “he was radicalised by self-proclaimed ‘incels’, a group of misogynists who organise online.” Knowing who they are HELPS.
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People have been writing about young misogynistic men who are radicalised online for years and a lot of people didn’t take them seriously because it was “just online” and they use “silly terms” like incel. But how do we attack the problem if we can’t correctly identify it?
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