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I think substrate is too simplistic a term in the last case, but you get the drift of my question. Am wondering if it’s just inevitably intelligence/consciousness optimization all the way up.
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Info density in physical systems (pre-Beckenstein bound) limits intelligence/consciousness. Overcoming would require a phase transition to a non-physical system. A separation of mind/matter. Probably qualitatively different. Still optimization. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ˜