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    1. Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @Dagk @benedictevans

      Dag, I fully agree. I could not think of a person in a better position to comment on this subject. Thank you.

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    2. Dag Kittlaus‏ @Dagk 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @BrianRoemmele @benedictevans

      We’re in the first inning. BE’s observations ring true on where we’re at, but as 3rd-parties join this game in a meaningful way just like the “App Store effect” on mobile this game changes in a big, big way.

      2 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    3. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 5 Feb 2018
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      The whole point of my argument is that third party development does not fix the problem in any way

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    4. Dag Kittlaus‏ @Dagk 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @BrianRoemmele

      When the ecosystem doesn’t require you to change the way you ask for something, then it’s game on. Your point is well taken on today’s ecosystems. Until it’s natural, not unnatural language things change. Preferred developers make money. The new SEO.

      1 reply 3 retweets 6 likes
    5. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @Dagk @BrianRoemmele

      I think invocation words are a secondary issue - the primary issue is remembering the skill itself is there, regardless of whether you need a specific wording to get to it. Similar to a smart watch - how many new habits can you form?

      4 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    6. Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @Dagk

      Benedict, this is the problem ever new platform faces. The PC (Vic 20, Sinclair) started with the “what can I do with this” questions and for almost a decade required magazines with printed BASIC lines of code to be entered. We are actually before this stage in #VoiceFirst.

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    7. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 5 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @BrianRoemmele @Dagk

      No, that’s a different issue entirely. The voice problem not what it *can* do, but that you cannot *remember* what it can do. And absent a screen, there’s no natural way to find out.

      4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Matthew‏ @skrimfid 6 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @BrianRoemmele @Dagk

      The winner will be whomever removes the need for intents. You won’t need to “remember” what it can do. If I say “Siri order me a pizza hut pizza” She should know how to get me there: auto-download pizza hut app, configure an account using icloud ID, use Apple Pay, etc.

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    9. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 6 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @skrimfid @BrianRoemmele @Dagk

      That’s general AI. 20 years, maybe 100 years

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    10. Matthew‏ @skrimfid 6 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @BrianRoemmele @Dagk

      Nah, I’d call it pipelined, or Workflow (as in the app) AI, to be honest why can’t iOS 11 just do this now? It knows my address (current loc), my payment methods, I’m asking for Pizza Hut pizza, it knows there is an app, etc. Doesn’t sound like Hal 9000 level needs to me

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      Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 6 Feb 2018
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      Replying to @skrimfid @benedictevans @Dagk

      Mathew, Indeed. This was one of the original premises for Apple to acquire Workflow and also VocalIQ. There is no need for ‘General AI” for your example and in many ways was already done by pre Apple Siri.

      9:29 AM - 6 Feb 2018
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