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    1. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 6h6 hours ago
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      Brad Wyble Retweeted Brian Roemmele

      This is interesting, but as far as I know, not actually true. The ability of monkeys to perform this task at seemingly superhuman levels is most likely a a practice effect. Humans do even better than monkeys given similar training. https://doi.org/10.3758/PBR.17.4.599 …https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1213860120058220546 …

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      Brian Roemmele @BrianRoemmele
      Consider: millions of years ago our antecedents gave a massive sacrifice of their left hemisphere. We lost a tremendous amount of short term memory and replaced it with Broca’s, Wernicke & the phonological loop. But why? So we can—talk. Thus chimpanzees can do this—we can’t: pic.twitter.com/CDznxg37p1
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      Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 6h6 hours ago
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      Brad, that paper was discredited by 30 years of research at this university. Here are some of the 1000s of studies—with “trained” humans. https://langint.pri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/ai/index.html 

      2:18 PM - 5 Jan 2020
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        1. Will Harrison‏ @willjharrison 5h5 hours ago
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          Can't see anything there that refutes the paper linked by Brad. It's a long list of publications though, so hard to be sure. Given the original claim seems to come from a 2007 paper, it's hard to understand how 30 years of research could "discredit" an even more recent response?

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        1. Matt Krause‏ @prokraustinator 5h5 hours ago
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          Do you have a more specific link? For me, that goes to a massive list of pubs on everything from cooperation in dolphins to feral horses’ reactions to death.

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        2. Amy Magnus‏ @cleverclue 6h6 hours ago
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          Did you ask any one from the Deaf community to run the experiment?

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        3. Amy Magnus‏ @cleverclue 6h6 hours ago
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          The experiment integrates an abstract ordering with an acuity for special relations. Deaf people tend to outperform hearing people in these tasks. The semantic forms matter.

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