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    1. Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 12h12 hours ago
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      Consider: millions of years ago our antecedents gave a massive sacrifice of their left hemisphere. We lost a tremendous amount of short term memory and replaced it with Broca’s, Wernicke & the phonological loop. But why? So we can—talk. Thus chimpanzees can do this—we can’t:pic.twitter.com/CDznxg37p1

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    2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 6h6 hours ago
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      It's a practice effect though. It turns out that people do even better than monkeys given similar training.https://doi.org/10.3758/PBR.17.4.599 …

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      Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 6h6 hours ago
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      Brad, that paper was discredited by 30 years of research at this university. Here are some of the 1000s of studies—with “trained” humans. https://langint.pri.kyoto-u.ac.jp/ai/index.html 

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        2. Jonathan Pillow‏ @jpillowtime 5h5 hours ago
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          Thanks Brian, but can you point to a specific paper that contradicts the Cook & Wilson 2010 result? The list you posted includes papers about tool use, bottlenose dolphins and horses in mongolia, but not obvious which are relevant to chimps vs. humans for this task. Thanks!

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        3. Brian Roemmele‏ @BrianRoemmele 2h2 hours ago
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          Jonathan, thanks for asking. I think the researcher Tetsuro Matsuzawa, PhD, Distinguished Professor, Kyoto University Institute for Advanced Study, has some of this in english, quite a bit is in Japanese. I am very certain the professor would love to address your questions.

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        2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 4h4 hours ago
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          As others have said also, id be curious to see what specifically refutes this finding. It seems like any findings that humans can equal chimp performance undercuts the main conclusion here.

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        3. Zaphod‏ @MinvstrD 1h1 hour ago
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          Lots of overtrained human subjects and memory trick people exist though, all cards in a deck in order, etc...infomercial stuffs. Whata the difference, average untrained vs average untrained?

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