Daniel, I hear ya. However I did a podcast with @reneritchie on this. The short of it is, Apple pays royalties every song played. They do not own the songs. Apple Music is a loss leader stated by Tim Cook. So there is no real revenue to Apple and a loss to Siri ecosystems.
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Daniel, I think this debate is clear and can be summed up by Tim Cook and invalidates the “Apple Services” make money with Apple Music on Alexa theory (see Tim’s own words):https://twitter.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1083836607784878080 …
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Brian Roemmele @BrianRoemmeleI have had to explain to some of the smartest people I know: “Apple Services” everywhere for “revenue” is severely flawed concept. Apple Music on Echo devices does not and will not earn Apple revenue. "We’re not doing Apple Music for the money”—Tim Cook https://www.cultofmac.com/568547/tim-cook-were-not-doing-apple-music-for-the-money/ …1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
I agree it is not about revenue but a defensive move to limit the incentive for iPhone users to go with Spotify or Amazon Music esp before Video launch. I don't think it will hurt Siri any more than Apple's lack of vision has. I enjoyed your talk with
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Daniel, I hear ya but the very idea of supporting a loss leader product on another platform has taken away value of the Siri ecosystem. If you were working on Siri in Apple and you heard this you would be demoralized.
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I agree, if I was on the HomePod or Siri team I would be demoralized and that is a risk. I think they saw the risk of people moving away from their content services before releasing Video and paid News as a greater one. The sooner they give a public statement on Siri the better.
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Daniel,I here ya, but it is not Apple’s content. It is Royalty based music. Amazon already has it on Alexa. What value does it really bring? Really think about it.
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Not yet, I think 2019 will change this and that will probably change Apple. How they will be able to focus on both this and Siri going forward I don't know. Rene calls it the Eye of Sauron how they focus on one thing to the detriment of everything else.
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Btw, I do not think Apple Services are are more valuable than Siri. I see Music and Videos as horizontal services and Siri and iMessage are vertical ones that are actually more important. Vertical ones tie you to hardware and horizontal keep users in ecosystem.
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Daniel, I hear ya. I think history will show this was a boneheaded move by Apple and more importantly a pied piper theory of well meaning Apple apologists to support an incorrect view of reality. Apple Music is not an exclusive product, Music is everyplace a bad pied piper trail.
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We shall see
. What does Siri have to do to succeed in 2019? Personally I think that they need to add full third-party support and parity across all devices. I find lots of other issues with it but that is a minimum.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
Daniel, indeed. You have brilliant insights sir. I can sum it up in one word: SiriOS been saying it since 2008. A #VoiceFirst true OS. Anything less is not worthy of Apple and the birthright they earned with Siri.
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100% although I am losing faith that it will happen. I fear they will be like Microsoft in mobile, the first one there but missed the boat.
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