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Professor in Exile. If we don't harness evolution, it will harness us. That web which shall not be named. Game~B.

Washington State
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    1. Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein Sep 5

      Bret Weinstein Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

      Culture is biology, downstream of genes.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1037449223770271744 …

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      Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
      Culture is downstream of biology.
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      Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein Sep 6

      It's interesting how easy this statement apparently is to misinterpret. The assertion should be self evident. Why are we even capable of culture? Because within our lineage, genes that fostered cultural transmission outcompeted genes that didn't. Culture is downstream biology.

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        1. Martin P. Hellwig‏ @MartinHellwig Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          No one referenced the obligatory xkcd yet?pic.twitter.com/VS1yaj4OZm

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        2. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf Sep 9
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          The capacity for culture is. The content of culture isn't. My ancestors gave me blue eyes but they knew nothing of quantum theory.

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        3. Umm...‏ @notsurethomas Sep 9
          Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @BretWeinstein

          But why does some cultural content more reliable stays instantiated(your concept)? Example being some religion or epic of gilgamesh or the boy who cried wolf. Also genes enhance the capacity to be captured by these religion so as to confer greater benefit.

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        4. Umm...‏ @notsurethomas Sep 9
          Replying to @notsurethomas @DavidDeutschOxf @BretWeinstein

          genes increase the tendency to be more captivated by those stories which increase fitness i.e. helpful to the germ line. Genes turn off capacity of those memes which focus on soma on average. So there is an interaction between genes and memes. Memes are not completely free.

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        5. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf Sep 9
          Replying to @notsurethomas @BretWeinstein

          Creating knowledge is not free. But culture and even whims often use inborn urges to fuel their opposites. E.g. anorexia, parachuting.

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        1. Peter Grant‏ @AtheistStoned 13h13 hours ago
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          Yes, culture is definitely biological, extended phenotype stuff, but must also then form part of the environment in which genes get selected, a sort of recursive feedback function.

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        1. Bill Hamilton‏ @wphamilton Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          that would mean that the CAPACITY for culture is downstream biology, not simply "culture". Big difference.

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        2. Gen 🅱️iotics‏ @GenBiotics Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          And, although the seemingly endless variety of culture makes it seem as if any kind of culture is theoretically possible, culture is, in fact, severely limited by our biology/nature.

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        3. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Sep 6
          Replying to @GenBiotics @BretWeinstein

          It’s definitely limited, but I’d balk at downplaying the flexibility. We are flexible enough to allow culture to overcome our strongest survival instincts in the right circumstances. That’s flexible.https://www.brainz.org/10-most-notorious-suicide-cults-history/ …

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        4. Gen 🅱️iotics‏ @GenBiotics Sep 6
          Replying to @smith_valence @BretWeinstein

          Certainly. Although chess is constrained by the rules of chess - a much simpler and narrower set of constraints than human biology/nature - the possible variations have yet to be calculated. The range of possible cultural variation is obviously much more vast than that.

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        5. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Sep 6
          Replying to @GenBiotics @BretWeinstein

          It could be infinite, but constrained, especially if you count small differences. Like the set of all positive numbers is infinite but constrained (it doesn’t include negative numbers). Humans also continue to evolve biologically, potentially changing the underlying biology of

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        6. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Sep 6
          Replying to @smith_valence @GenBiotics @BretWeinstein

          *future culture and adding more possibilities (but still constrained by the new biology).

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        7. Gen 🅱️iotics‏ @GenBiotics Sep 6
          Replying to @smith_valence @BretWeinstein

          I agree 100%. If you tried to design a culture from scratch and impose it on people, it likely wouldn't work, but the variety of culture that may emerge naturally may well be infinite.

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        2. Chris Aldrich‏ @caldrich1142 Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          What's the point of establishing that as fact? Is there more to this tweet it feels incomplete unless it's meant to just be a statement

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        3. Kamal‏ @JudiciaIreview Sep 12
          Replying to @caldrich1142 @BretWeinstein

          it's useful to know that biology affects culture, for a number of reasons... Have you ever watched a Jordan Peterson lecture by any chance?

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        4. Chris Aldrich‏ @caldrich1142 Sep 12
          Replying to @JudiciaIreview @BretWeinstein

          Biology does effect culture yes. As biological/technological beings both these things represent us and it seems from Darwin factors that weeded out other ways. Were other ways ever possible? IDW wants solution conversation that's why I attempted to drive it further

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        1. Thomas Adamson‏ @tomthecamel2093 Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          I've always thought of culture as a function of biology and environmental constraints. Would that be an accurate characterisation, Bret?

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        1. Kev Ferrara‏ @FerraraKev Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          Culture's also downstream of environment. A culture arising from water, bamboo, lotus & fish differs from one of sand, cacti, vultures & fountain grass. Since biology is downstream of environment too, culture is more downstream of environment than downstream of biology. No?

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        1. Cormac McCarthyism‏ @AmiableNihilist Sep 6
          Replying to @BretWeinstein

          The capacity and will to generate culture is very likely rooted in biology, probably also certain structural predilections - but the specific norms, features, and customs are likely also determined heavily by environment, history, circumstance, etc... Culture isn't only biology.

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