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Professor in Exile. If we don't harness evolution, it will harness us. That web which shall not be named. Game~B.

Washington State
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    Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein Sep 5

    Bret Weinstein Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

    Culture is biology, downstream of genes.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1037449223770271744 …

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    Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
    Culture is downstream of biology.
    11:30 PM - 5 Sep 2018
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      1. Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein Sep 6

        It's interesting how easy this statement apparently is to misinterpret. The assertion should be self evident. Why are we even capable of culture? Because within our lineage, genes that fostered cultural transmission outcompeted genes that didn't. Culture is downstream biology.

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      2. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Sep 5
        Replying to @BretWeinstein

        It's all quarks, really.

        7 replies 1 retweet 38 likes
      3. Dekken‏ @Dekken_ Sep 5
        Replying to @Evolving_Ego @BretWeinstein

        prove it

        0 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
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      2. Skeptica‏ @Skeptical_Muse Sep 5
        Replying to @BretWeinstein

        That sounds reductionist to me and far too confident. Is everything in the social realm merely biology, downstream of genes? Is a computer just biology downstream of genes? If so, it loses all meaning. Consciousness and its products seem still too mysterious to be so glib.

        7 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
      3. Skeptica‏ @Skeptical_Muse Sep 5
        Replying to @Skeptical_Muse @BretWeinstein

        And when I say mysterious, I don't mean unknowable, but currently not understood in any deeper way. As such, we are really dancing on air instead of firm ground when we talk about culture and the mind's creations as extended phenotype or biology, downstream of genes.

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      4. Skeptica‏ @Skeptical_Muse Sep 6
        Replying to @Skeptical_Muse @BretWeinstein

        It seems rather impoverished as an explanation. Surely something as complex as culture needs its own science rather than being reduced to or subsumed under another. Everything cannot be explained with reference to quarks and gluons even though those particles are the base of all.

        3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      5. MicMars‏ @IAmMicMars Sep 6
        Replying to @Skeptical_Muse @BretWeinstein

        MicMars Retweeted The Onion

        Nah, Skeptica, ya got it all wrong. In the chain of being, Satire is the root of all things, even your breathing. You're welcome.https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1037673282647089153?s=19 …

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        The OnionVerified account @TheOnion
        Insurance Company Gets Fucked Over By Another Cancer Patient https://trib.al/bQtFuGB  pic.twitter.com/c05NnvaFb0
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      6. Skeptica‏ @Skeptical_Muse Sep 6
        Replying to @IAmMicMars @BretWeinstein

        I initially read that as Sartre is the root of all things and had an existential crisis. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. The Abs-Tract Org.‏ @tato_tweets Sep 6
        Replying to @BretWeinstein

        Downstream, upstream.... Don't be naive Bret! Epigenetics means culture affects genes. It goes both ways, it ain't a river.

        1 reply 2 retweets 10 likes
      3. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor Sep 7
        Replying to @tato_tweets @BretWeinstein

        Seems like both @BretWeinstein and @primalpoly need to read some more @JoHenrich

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. The Abs-Tract Org.‏ @tato_tweets Sep 7
        Replying to @cognazor @BretWeinstein and

        All I ask is that if they're going to be Evolutionists, don't be so selfish and essentialist about it. Biological and Cultural evolution are two sides of the same coin. Micro/ Macro.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor Sep 7
        Replying to @tato_tweets @BretWeinstein and

        Exactly. Co-evolutionary feedback loops

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. The Abs-Tract Org.‏ @tato_tweets Sep 7
        Replying to @cognazor @BretWeinstein and

        Would pay $1 to get his 2 cents on Evolutionary Globalization..https://medium.com/the-abs-tract-organization/evolutionary-globalization-d404be5d770f …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Jason Snyder‏ @cognazor Sep 7
        Replying to @tato_tweets @BretWeinstein and

        Bookmarked!

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. CritRat‏ @Crit_Rat Sep 6
        Replying to @BretWeinstein

        Culture cannot have anything to do with genes because of explanatory universality.

        3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Brett Hall‏ @ToKTeacher Sep 6
        Replying to @Crit_Rat @BretWeinstein

        Well it has *something* to do with them. It’s just not *determined* by them as most involved in evolutionary biology, ignorant of universality and what people are, seem to think.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. CritRat‏ @Crit_Rat Sep 6
        Replying to @ToKTeacher @BretWeinstein

        Yes, that's a better way of putting it. Also, it's interesting that biology is intimately connected with culture, but not in this way.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Brett Hall‏ @ToKTeacher Sep 6
        Replying to @Crit_Rat @BretWeinstein

        It’s a real stumbling block (or actual road block) for understanding both culture and individual minds when even the specialists dismiss memes in favour of genes. Or think the latter fully shape the former.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. CritRat‏ @Crit_Rat Sep 6
        Replying to @ToKTeacher @BretWeinstein

        It's fascinating that all strands of reality are misunderstood. There must be an explanation for that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Scott Hamilton‏ @DoqxaScott Sep 6
        Replying to @Crit_Rat @ToKTeacher @BretWeinstein

        There's not much to indicate this misunderstanding in this example. Or am I missing something?

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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