It's interesting how easy this statement apparently is to misinterpret. The assertion should be self evident. Why are we even capable of culture? Because within our lineage, genes that fostered cultural transmission outcompeted genes that didn't. Culture is downstream biology.
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It's all quarks, really.
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That sounds reductionist to me and far too confident. Is everything in the social realm merely biology, downstream of genes? Is a computer just biology downstream of genes? If so, it loses all meaning. Consciousness and its products seem still too mysterious to be so glib.
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And when I say mysterious, I don't mean unknowable, but currently not understood in any deeper way. As such, we are really dancing on air instead of firm ground when we talk about culture and the mind's creations as extended phenotype or biology, downstream of genes.
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It seems rather impoverished as an explanation. Surely something as complex as culture needs its own science rather than being reduced to or subsumed under another. Everything cannot be explained with reference to quarks and gluons even though those particles are the base of all.
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Nah, Skeptica, ya got it all wrong. In the chain of being, Satire is the root of all things, even your breathing. You're welcome.https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1037673282647089153?s=19 …
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I initially read that as Sartre is the root of all things and had an existential crisis.




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Downstream, upstream.... Don't be naive Bret! Epigenetics means culture affects genes. It goes both ways, it ain't a river.
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All I ask is that if they're going to be Evolutionists, don't be so selfish and essentialist about it. Biological and Cultural evolution are two sides of the same coin. Micro/ Macro.
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Exactly. Co-evolutionary feedback loops
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Would pay $1 to get his 2 cents on Evolutionary Globalization..https://medium.com/the-abs-tract-organization/evolutionary-globalization-d404be5d770f …
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Bookmarked!
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Culture cannot have anything to do with genes because of explanatory universality.
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Well it has *something* to do with them. It’s just not *determined* by them as most involved in evolutionary biology, ignorant of universality and what people are, seem to think.
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Yes, that's a better way of putting it. Also, it's interesting that biology is intimately connected with culture, but not in this way.
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It’s a real stumbling block (or actual road block) for understanding both culture and individual minds when even the specialists dismiss memes in favour of genes. Or think the latter fully shape the former.
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It's fascinating that all strands of reality are misunderstood. There must be an explanation for that.
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There's not much to indicate this misunderstanding in this example. Or am I missing something?
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