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Op-ed columnist, New York Times. Formerly WSJ, JPost. Chilango. "The nambiest and the pambiest," Dinesh D'Souza. Married to a better writer. Dad to K, N & L.

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    Bret Stephens‏Verified account @BretStephensNYT May 24

    (9) Readers should judge for themselves. Here's the speech. Read before burning:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/leave-your-safe-spaces-the-2017-commencement-address-at-hampden-sydney-college.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/features/a27313/men-mock-safe-spaces/ …

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      2. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @BretStephensNYT

        You know what? We disagree on politics but your speech was spot on. If I may, although I am not famous nor a writer, I think I can explain

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      3. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        Problem: you used the same term for the physical "and your...Ahem...Blessed" example of a safe space for the potentially triggering speech

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      4. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        But then you proceed to point out the damage that "safe spaces" can do to the free exchange of ideas and discourse in society. The issue was

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      5. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        Not changing the name of the more extreme version of your meaning. Your speech in context set up the clarification in subsequent paragraphs

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      6. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        But your very first definition of a safe space was the Brown one so that's the picture that readers/viewers had in their head, like it

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      7. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        Or not, throughout. And so it sounded like you were saying "hey don't stay in there too long, potentially triggered," it'll mess you up"

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      8. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        Suggestion: change your definition of the extreme version to "safe bubble" once your "safe space" becomes physically/virtually mobile, it's

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      9. CptBenjaminSisko2017‏ @kryptonitejedi May 24
        Replying to @kryptonitejedi @BretStephensNYT

        A problem. So "safe bubbles" are bad and protect but also protect some from challenging their own ideas. Or you can use the original way we

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      2. Tiffany Leigh‏ @tiffanyleigh May 24
        Replying to @BretStephensNYT

        You are consistently the worst take in a volcano of hot takes

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      3. Tiffany Leigh‏ @tiffanyleigh May 24
        Replying to @tiffanyleigh @BretStephensNYT

        You are never accidentally mediocre or intellectually threadbare by chance.

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      4. Tiffany Leigh‏ @tiffanyleigh May 24
        Replying to @tiffanyleigh @BretStephensNYT

        Your lazy and impoverished ideas are always perfectly attuned to your writing. Your form is always in perfect harmony with function.

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      2. Jeanne Ackerly‏ @jeanneack May 24
        Replying to @BretStephensNYT

        I agree with the premise of your speech, but even to me the time devoted to the safe space sounds like a clear intent to ridicule.

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      2. Manuel Cárdenas‏ @jmcardenas_ May 24
        Replying to @BretStephensNYT

        Your rebuttal is largely convincing. If it's intellectual safe spaces you're critiquing, though, then why mention details of physical ones?

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      3. marcial guzman‏ @jesterfebruary May 24
        Replying to @jmcardenas_ @BretStephensNYT

        I think he believes that many of these safe spaces which pretend to be for the health of students are just meant to silence dissent

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      4. marcial guzman‏ @jesterfebruary May 24
        Replying to @jesterfebruary @jmcardenas_ @BretStephensNYT

        So in most cases, physical/intellectual safe spaces can't really be distinguished. Take the Brown example he mentioned, for instance.

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      5. Manuel Cárdenas‏ @jmcardenas_ May 24
        Replying to @jesterfebruary @BretStephensNYT

        Understood—but he said he explicitly endorsed the safe space, especially if it provided comfort. Seemed to me a gratuitous rhetorical jab.

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    1. Dan Mitchell‏ @Fortunes_Wheel May 24
      Replying to @BretStephensNYT

      Forget this current spat for a moment. This was your *commencement address*? Jesus.

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