during the invasion of Vietnam, hundreds of Chinese soldiers were killed because they based their combined armed tactics on watching WW2 Soviet movies and attempted to ride on the tanks.https://twitter.com/ModelsWarp/status/1457693636632666113 …
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BeijingPalmer
Well you ride them TO battle, not INTO battle.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @andreamatranga ja @BeijingPalmer
A lot of knightly warfare was also on foot. The horse provide operational mobility, recon ability, etc. Fighting from horseback kinda sucks if you're up against anything bettee than peasant levees.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @andreamatranga ja @BeijingPalmer
Eh, yes and no? To be clear, if we're talking 'knightly warfare,' we're talking post-Carolingian period...the skills expected of 'knights' are predominantly (but not exclusively) about mounted combat. They expected to fight mounted far more often than not.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @BeijingPalmer
Well a lot of knightly warfare was burning the other side's villages....
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @andreamatranga ja @BeijingPalmer
True, but because you are raiding another military aristocrat's village, the chance of finding yourself in a 'small' engagement is meaningful. That engagement would also generally take place with both sides mounted.
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But the emphasis for aristocrats is overwhelmingly on mounted combat. They have other people - mercenaries/ the sergeantry - to fight on foot. Situations, like Agincourt, where most of the knights are dismounted, are exceptions, not the rule.
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Random question: why anti cavalry pike formations develop so late? Is it a matter of training? Or innovation?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Egocrata, @BretDevereaux ja
I thought it was mostly economic/organizational/circumstantial. "Maintain formation and keep the pointy bits foe-ward" predates pikes. Predates iron, for that matter. Cavalry always had to wait until formation was disrupted. 1/2
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Soloraka1, @Egocrata ja
15c was a point where some Euro nations were able to field forces of sufficient size with sufficient training that they were able to consistently maintain formation against the enemies they happened to face, but I don't think it was pikes or squares that made the difference. 2/2
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Yes to this - it's about cohesion and organization, but note effective heavy infantry both in ancient Europe (pre-Roman/Roman) and in the early Middle Ages. High/Late European Middle Ages is exceptional for the general poor quality of its infantry.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @Soloraka1 ja
Feudalism was not particularly good at providing reasons for infantry to fight to the death.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @andreamatranga, @BretDevereaux ja
I feel like the structural issues mattered at least as much as the individual motivation. If the monarch's putative armies are mostly levies from the vassals, which may themselves come from sub-vassals, it's hard to maintain a persistent and consistent professional core.
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