Piling through Livy looking at his standard beginning-of-year passages, I do not know how the 'Romans didn't do strategy' limits-of-empire thesis survived editing. Sure, that argument is for the Empire...but do we assume the Romans just forgot how to do strategy in 31?
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For those who haven't slogged through Livy 21-45, Livy begins pretty much every year with the allocation of provincia and other instructions by the Senate to various magistrates and while he doesn't usually relate the strategic concerns that motivate those decisions...
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...it is very obvious that the Senate is making decisions balancing between various conflicts and theaters, coordinating resources with operational plans and making ends-and-means decisions. Which is to say strategy. (This chunk of Livy covers 218-166 BC)
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Do you have a link or explanation for the “Romans didn’t so strategy” limits-of-empire thesis?
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @dhmontgomery
B. Isaac, The Limits of Empire (1992) is the key text, though the same is implied by W.V. Harris, War and Imperialism in Republican Rome (1981). The argument sticks around in some circles, despite being utterly obliterated by E.L. Wheeler, "Metholodigcal Limits" JMH 51.1-2
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @dhmontgomery
One key to understanding the debate is that it was kicked off by E. Luttwak, The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire (1976), the reception of which in Classics Land was contentious to say the least - 'no strategy' was a rejection of Luttwak.
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Luttwak's book is a real mixed bag - he has some good observations, but his lack of classical training also shows quite badly at points. One of the files in my 'to do' projects folder is an approach on this question, so maybe one day I'll do that, if I ever have time
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I'd like to read that! If I may: how far do you see the process of 'who goes where' as foreign policy vs high politics: is the strategy Rome's, or that of individual senators, perhaps with clashing aims? And how far do the 'seeing like a state' ideas in your EU4 blog matter here?
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States aren't unitary actors, but more often than not the Romans got all of their various leaders rowing in the same direction, with the notable exceptions of the periods 88-31 BC and 235-284 AD.
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