Bret Devereaux Twitterissä: "To be clear, that doesn't mean we need necessarily more #ClassicsDiscourse. It means we need to start modeling our newer, better, more inclusive classics *to the public* (not just our students) at large and show its value and superior outreach potential. 13/16"

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

Instead a lot of what they're going is creating public-facing, accessible forms of fairly basic information in catchy ways - here are the basic themes of Vergil, here are the basics of ancient Greek clothing, here is the structure of a Roman legion. 3/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

To be clear, I don't think that is the pinnacle of the possible. A lot of the enthusiast material I see, I find myself wishing they had more formal training so they could add deeper layers of analysis to the foundational material they are laying out. 4/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

But they are reaching people and in doing so, claiming a public value for the work we do which is absolutely necessary for funding the work we do, be it via public funds or tuition dollars (which require butts-in-seats). In the end, we are reliant on the public. 5/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

Like, I want to stress the difference here: this one video here making a funny summary of the Aeneid on YouTube has about as many views (2.89m) as every Eidolon article ever added together (c. 2m, footnote: https://eidolon.pub/my-classics-will-be-intersectional-or-14ed6e0bcd1c …):https://youtu.be/QRruBVFXjnY

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

(Don't misunderstand me, Eidolon was important, and outreach isn't the only kind of communication we need to do. Views aren't everything, but they *do* matter if the goal is to reach the public and we need to reach the public if we want to still have departments in a decade.)7/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

And yes, YouTube is different in views, but I can say with some confidence that even with a text-heavy blog, greater reach is possible. ACOUP does Eidolon's lifetime numbers each year and I know a committed public engagement classics publication could beat that handily. 8/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

This all comes from a place of real concern - I know we debate a lot on Classics Twitter (TM) about what Classics should be (and that's important!) but I find myself mostly worried about 'will this field - whatever its better form is - survive at all?' 9/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

We're set to lose at least two important classics departments (UVM and Howard). How many more are on the chopping block at SLC that don't make national news? How many Latin programs? Folks, the Classics apocalypse (LBAC?) isn't coming - it's here. Troy is burning *now.* 10/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

Absolutely we need to be having discussions about the shape of the field we want to save - but we also need to save it for that to matter. It does us no good if we settle on a more inclusive classics which only survives in a handful of elite institutions and nowhere else. 11/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

So we've got to come out of our crumbling towers and meet the people where they are. If we're going to have a new, better classics, public outreach is the place to build it - not endless faculty debates. For better or for worse, the courses will have to follow demand. 12/16

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Bret Devereaux‏ @BretDevereaux 1. kesäk.

To be clear, that doesn't mean we need necessarily more #ClassicsDiscourse. It means we need to start modeling our newer, better, more inclusive classics *to the public* (not just our students) at large and show its value and superior outreach potential. 13/16

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