Thoughts on the drive home from #SMH2021: our panel (organized by @ProfPaul_J ) was the only panel on any pre-modern topic. There were just two other papers in the whole program before 1700.
And I can't help but think there is real value in getting more premodernists there. 1/9
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The argument being that Patton - who was independently wealthy - didn't rely on his profession for his livelihood and so didn't neatly fit the definition. The conversation, I thought, was an example where the relative absence of grounding in the pre-modern really showed. 3/9
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Because the end conclusion was 'probably Patton still counts as a profession' - but a room with more pre-modernists (or even more early-modernists) might have recognized that Patton's life is of a very standard type in world history: Patton was a military aristocrat. 4/9
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Born to a wealthy and prominent family (his father was the LA DA and the Mayor of San Marino and ran for Senate) and married into further wealth. Even Patton's competition at the 1912 Olympics fits with the kind of agonistic display military aristocrats do. 5/9
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But at several panels - not just this one - were professionalism came up, it was clear that there were just two models available: professional soldiers, and unprofessional (often freighted with negative meaning) ones. 6/9
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There are so many other kinds of recruitment and status systems! Warriors, military aristocrats, military underclasses (e.g. slave and prisoner soldiers), citizen militias, the 'nation-in-arms,' tribal levies, military settlers, private-contact-armies... 7/9
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But the modern conversations were dominated by "Professional national soldier or not?" Anyway,
#SMH2021 was great, the panels were great - but we need to get more pre-modernists and early modernists out there and everyone else needs to go to their panels! 8/9Näytä tämä ketju -
Also, for really incisive take on professionalism in a pre-modern context, check out Michael Taylor (
@DrMichaelJTayl1)'s incisive paper from our panel which you can actually see on the youtubes because he recorded it: https://youtu.be/S1gbntb2TBM end/9Näytä tämä ketju
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At first I thought you were talking about a professionalization panel, and the question was asking if Patton was a good role model for grad students about to go on the market, and I was like hm that’s interesting?
Kiitos. Käytämme tätä aikajanasi parantamiseen. KumoaKumoa
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