Since we just don't know the answer, and a lot of it will have to do with social status and cultural symbols, we can't speculate as to what it would or would not be optimised to do. 25/https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/aspis-global-shield/ …
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I don't consider this criticism, but there is also a missed opportunity here - citation of Demaratos' speech to Xerxes (Hdt. 7.104), in which the Spartan king specifically disavows individual skill, but claims Spartans together are the best. 26/
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Similarly, on whether Spartans fought more than others, there is now Hodkinson 'Professionalism in the Spartan Army' (2020) proving they didn't. It's nice when new research has your back! 27/https://www.academia.edu/44057481/Professionalism_specialization_and_skill_in_the_classical_Spartan_army_2020_ …
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Referring to Anderson (1970) as the key text on Spartan training, when Anderson was happy to just assume whatever he needed to make his argument work? I'm tooting my own horn here, but I examined the evidence more recently and at greater length (2018) 28/pic.twitter.com/o3ZGDpRwsm
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I won't get into the detail of the list of battles - there are always minor points of interpretation, addition and subtraction - but BD reaches slightly different %s than Ray ('Land Battles' (2009)) who did this exercise in much more detail. 29/
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It is more objectionable to paint Herodotos as the culprit in spreading this part of the Spartan myth, when (as Van Wees has shown) he actually did a lot to correct its more fantastical elements. Can't get a break though, can he. 30/pic.twitter.com/YzhgiBT56x
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But, again, overall, this blog makes the right points. The limits of Spartan ability, the absence of training, and the importance of their reputation, are all points I would make, and have made. It's good. But it could be better? /end
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Fair critiques. I'll correct the hoplon/hoplite point. Point on phalanx depth is fair, will change to 'eight(ish)' for standard hoplite phalanx and give a sense of greater variety in depth.
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Going to beg to differ on points re: orthodoxy. Also on combined arms - I'm not saying they don't do combined arms, I'm saying they aren't very good at it. Lack of coordination and also Greek cavalry (Thessalians excepted) and light infantry (Cretans excepted) seems sub-par.
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And the coordination is lack-luster. We can assume other arms in the penumbra around reported hoplite armies and sometimes the sources tell us so, but never anything to the complexity of Alexander's army, or a Roman consular army, or even a Persian royal army.
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In any event, thank you for the critique! Honestly, I'm quite content that the original post comes out this well, given that it was a blog series written functionally in a fit of pique rather than a carefully researched academic article and Sparta is not my core specialty.
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