Says the fool with 'tankie' in their handle! Sorry, I know too many eastern Europeans to take anyone seriously who embraces that label voluntarily.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @BeijingPalmer
Thanks for sharing your honest appraisal, and I'm sure an interesting discussion could be had on that topic regardless of the personal experiences of your Eastern European acquaintances (of which I also have a few) but I'm not the one serving up WWIII agitprop, Mr. Palmer is.
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Also, some extremely simplified explanatory reading material for the bystanders:https://redsails.org/tankies/
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Twitonymous1 ja @BeijingPalmer
'Tankie' literally calls to defenses of the USSR's use of force to crush opposition in Hungary and the (modern) Czech Republic. It's as if there were people on twitter calling themselves "Anschlussies" but claiming that the only did it because they liked Hitler's vegetarianism.
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If someone wears a war crime around their neck like a badge of honor, I am going to assume it is either because they are a monster who supports war crimes, or because they are an idiot who doesn't know any better. I really don't see any other options.
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Especially since there are all sorts of ways to identify as more reasonable versions of the left - you can be dem-soc or even outright socialist but still repudiate the USSR. The point at which you are insisting on the virtue of murderous regimes *instead* of those options...
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @BeijingPalmer
Social democrats are perfectly at ease with welfare states at home, at the cost of continuing misery, exploitation, war and death abroad. They are not a viable alternative to capitalism, merely a soothing palliative while the world goes to hell.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Twitonymous1 ja @BeijingPalmer
And by 'goes to hell' you mean that levels of war, violence and poverty all fall at record rates.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @BeijingPalmer
War and violence are sadly still very much a fact of life, we have simply banished them far from view outside of Western Europe, North America and a few select enclaves around the world. The only reason global poverty has fallen in the last decades is because of "tankie" China.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Twitonymous1 ja @BeijingPalmer
The point you make about violence is wrong in global terms: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/battle-related-deaths-in-state-based-conflicts-since-1946-by-world-region … Battlefield deaths decline as a function of time, even counting the horrors of the Syrian Civil War; the decline is even more dramatic if you adjust for population.
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Also, much of the decline in global poverty since 1990 has not been in China. The decline in South Asia is nearly as sharp and the decline as a percentage-adjusted portion of the population of Africa is likewise pronounced.
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