And also I think some of that 55% is only marginally invested. And also 45% is a lot! It makes it a pretty significant problem when returns to capital dwarf returns to labor.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @PetreRaleigh
I'd rather see a radical expansion of the EITC than an increase in the minimum wage (they have the same effect of boosting low incomes), but I think we are past the point that we have to be looking at ways to improve returns to labor.
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My big worry with attacking the problem via minimum wage is the disparate impacts in different areas. $15 is a bit different in S. Dakota than it is in New York. EITC expansion would avoid that problem of potentially wrecking businesses in low-cost-of-living areas.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BretDevereaux
This is the age-old argument against minimum wage increases and I think it would be stronger in this case if $15 were a solid wage in New York and not an unlivable one
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It's not the New York end that worries me. The minimum wage in New York could be $100 and I wouldn't care. My concern is that in a lot of low-cost-of-living-places, a lot of service industry businesses that are locally important may have to cut back at $15
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BretDevereaux
Another way of articulating my point might be that the current federal wage is so bad that it makes $15 *in 2025* seem a lot more unreasonable for South Dakota than it actually is. Minimum wage workers are starving there too.
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I mean, sure. The perpetual danger with price floors on labor is that you risk closing out low productivity workers from the market, which blocks them from becoming high productivity workers.
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In essence, the 'sawing the bottom rungs off of the ladder" problem. That problem is going to be a lot more acute, obviously, in parts of the country where people start lower on the ladder in absolute dollar terms by virtue of the local economy.
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We've already gotten a far-too-big divide between regions with lots of economic dynamism and regions with very little. I worry that raising the minimum wage so high will make this problem worse and as a result, not help all of the people it should help.
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By contrast, a big boost to the EITC would put money into those economically weaker regions of the country, potentially helping them to become more economically dynamic and successful.
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But, I mean, let's not fool ourselves. We're not doing minimum wage because it's the smart intervention. It isn't and never was. We're doing minimum wage because the costs with it are politically invisible and fall heavily on marginally politically involved (poor) people.
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We *could* raise taxes and do income support, but we're not going to do that because it means raising taxes on the urban professionals who make up part of the core Democratic base.
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At this point, I'm pretty open to the idea that a less-than-ideal intervention like raising the minimum wage is better than no intervention. But we need to be honest that the minimum wage is on the table because of a political calculus that is not great.
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