Oh boy, we're doing Peter Turchin 'Cliodynamics' (which I almost typed 'Cliomancy' which seems about as accurate) discourse again. So my views on the matter were expressed here, from the last time we did Cliodynamics-Discourse:https://twitter.com/BretDevereaux/status/1327041776109154307 …
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Turchin's very confident predictions lack this sense of uncertainty, instead presenting a front of unjustified confidence, based in turn on evidence which often doesn't exist. It isn't "a more mature social science" but rather (borrowing C.S. Lewis' phrase) "a boy's philosophy."
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Cliodynamics reminds me most of the deterministic progression of 'historical modes of production' in early Marxist historiography (mercifully all but abandoned even by far-left historians); another "boy's philosophy" pretending to offer the 'solutions' to historical study.
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Starting to think that my book-in-progress on what Thucydides can teach us needs a whole chapter on why he would disagree with Cliodynamics and be right to do so...
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Yes! Thucydides is far more circumspect in his claims about how history can be used, linking it instead to human nature and suggesting patterns rather than exact replication. Also, I look forward to reading that book!
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