"If there's such a thing as a good war, this was it...it was entirely defensive." Uh, this conflict started because Athens funded rebel proxy groups in Persian territory and then Sparta backed them when the Persians got upset. Not *entirely* defensive.
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He goes on for a bit on the qualities of oak, which is rather pointless given the previous point. Also, he declares that 'nothing is going to penetrate this' which flies in the face of both some combat narratives in the sources and modern tests. Shields are good, not perfect.
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Making declarative statements about the grips (overhand/underhand) of hoplite weapons. This is something that drives me absolutely nuts about pop-history like this: confident statements about points of real uncertainty. *Probably* overhand was more common, as in art.
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On this debate, note
@Roelkonijn 's r/AskHistorians realtalk here:https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4khcr9/did_greek_hoplites_thrust_overarm_or_underarm/ …Näytä tämä ketju -
'How did the Persians fight..they fought as archers, primarily.' Wild oversimplification of a complex, combined arms Achaemenid army that incorporated light infantry, missile troops, what I'd call 'medium' infantry, skirmish cavalry, etc.
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The general point here - that Achaemenid armies were more 'fire' oriented and Greek armies more 'shock' oriented is, I think, sound, but the degree of difference is wildly overstated.
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'They might have a leather jerkin that they wore' FFS. 'Leather Jerkin' is mostly a thing in Dungeons and Dragons. No serious student of historical armor uses this phrase, except for very early modern things like buff coats. So no, not leather jerkins.
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I'd say, conservatively, 75% references to leather armor I see are bunk; most often the armor in question is actually textile. Not to say there weren't leather armors! Hardened leather, buff coats, leather lamellar, sure...but the DnD imagined leather is vastly overgeneralized.
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"Leonidas seems like he was a quotation machine" - as related in legend by an author 600 years later and this prompts no suspicion or critical thinking at all? C'mon.
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That video was 8 minutes and 16 seconds long and I count 18 points of either error or significant misrepresentation. I expected to get through more of these tonight, but the next batch will have to wait.
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Before I bounce out, I should note that, after six videos about the Spartans - looking at the list, a lot of these are about Sparta - still no mention of the 80-90% of Spartan society which were not Spartiates. Or any mention the Spartans had slaves at all.pic.twitter.com/QpEDE7QWA3
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