It's not like people who carry out a coup say "We are now seizing power illegitimately". They say "We are stopping the big steal", "we are counting all the legal votes", "we are protecting / restoring the constitution" or such shit.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @benjcartlidge ja @Nakhthor
Yes, some of this lot explicitly want a revolution. I wonder if in modernity coups are quite often unlike ancient ones, in that they may be inspired by utopian sentiment rather than by appeals to restore some idealized past?
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In the rhetoric and ideology I've seen from interviews, there's a lot of 'taking America back' or (of course) making America great 'again' so I think the idealized (invented, really) past is probably operative in this case for a lot of the insurrectionists.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @Woolf_Greg ja
But it's a version of the past so clearly divorced from the actual past in some cases that, when described, it feels utopian. I think there is a lot of unacknowledged borrowing there in terms of symbolism and such from other utopian revolutionary movements.
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Interesting. I suppose eighteenth century revolutionaries mobilized symbols from the past to utopian ends too. (Including, ironically a Senate, a Capitol and the fasces...)
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One of those really vivid examples of how we construct the future out of our understandings - however accurate or warped - of the past.
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