Importantly, people like Cleon and Alcibiades weren't presented as common people or following the will of common people; Thucydides saw them as cynical aristocrats, manipulating out of selfish, egotistic motives.
Sparta is both 1) a unique polis because of the helots and 2) one of the hardest of hard oligarchies.
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Both Athens and Sparta are strange poleis, but Athens is, in its governing structure (especially if we include the 500s) far more typical of polis government, as far as we can tell, than Sparta is.
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But clearly, not just in one cities but in dozens of cities, the differences btw oligarchy and democracy were considered to be worth dying over.
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Do you not get the strong sense from a passage like this that Thucydides loves Athens and its form of government? Serious question.pic.twitter.com/QvDp2tdoWw
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I get the sense that Pericles does; he's speaking here, not Thucydides. There's a whole exciting debate about the degree to which Thucydides' speeches were his own construction or original (he claims to have gotten the gist of the original when he could)...
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