@BretDevereaux You write that "Thucydides [was an] aristocratic Athenian[]… frustrated that democracy – in [his] view – let the fickle, uneducated and poor ‘masses’ make decisions that ought to have been left to their ‘betters.’"
What in his History do you infer that from?
He says the latter - the 'always grasping for more' of the Athenians and the contrast between wise Pericles and the imprudent decisions of the Athenian assembly (e.g. Sicily) subsequently.
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As for him being an elite, he tells us himself that he was one of the strategoi (he shows up in his own history, getting played hard by Brasidas) and he also tells us (4.105) of his own holdings in Thrace, which were considerable. So he was rich and prominent, prior to his exile
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No dispute there.
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But Pericles was part of the democracy. The democracy put him in positions of leadership until he died of the plague. Pericles isn't a counterpoint to democracy.
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What Thucydides says re democracy is that they need good leaders, who put the polis first, and don't appeal to the absolute fucking worst instincts of the people in the service of their own aggrandizement. Might I suggest that we Americans should keenly appreciate that insight?
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