More broadly, I was frustrated in the discussion because saying 'no debate took place' precluded discussing *why* the stance has changed the way it has which in turn I thought didn't really present an understandable case for why Biden is going where he's going. 8/18
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Two reasons. 1) that is what we tried for the last 30 years and it clearly didn't work. This is why the events in Hong Kong spurred such a radical shift in thinking - they were clear evidence of the not-working-ness of engagement.
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Well put. I have generally enjoyed their foreign policy podcasts (particularly on the Middle East), though I disagreed with some of the stuff in this one about great power competition and decoupling.
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I thought it was especially funny because Matt’s books whole framing was “we need more people in order to compete with China.”
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The biggest problem with Option 1 has always been the fact that the US doesn't have an absolute veto on Japanese and RoK nuclear weapons programs. If they're sufficiently terrified of China, and we aren't there to help them, they'll damn well get nukes -> Op 2 by default.
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was just going to post this. Unless the US is willing to go full Molotov-Ribbentrop and sell Taiwan to the PRC in the dead of night (and we couldn't, and we shouldn't), any sort of gradual option 1 just puts the nukes back on the table. Japan and SK are both paranuclear today.
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Hi Bret, long time listener, first time caller. Your claim that American policy toward China has been thoroughly debated before the American public seems wrong. Outside of trade, China policy has been very little discussed. Looking at campaign websites: 1/n
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