We elect one president once every four years. I'm just not that worried about crime waves touched off by people whose escape plan is getting elected to the presidency.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @asymmetricinfo ja @ConsWahoo
I am not worried about local muggers running for office. What I am worried about is the 'Julius Caesar scenario': laws stop mattering in politics because holding office renders one (effectively or de jure) immune to prosecution.
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In the consular elections of 60BC, Caesar engaged in extensive bribery and corruption because he knew that once elected, he would be immune from prosecution in his consular year (consuls, by virtue of holding 'imperium' could not be prosecuted).
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Then, during his consulship, he did quite a bit more blatantly illegal action, because he had already arranged to be given a position with imperium the following year (a proconsular command in Gaul).
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Fast forward about a decade and Caesar is marching on Rome because political changes in Rome mean that he cannot secure another command with imperium, which means he's about to become a private citizen with literally ten years of obvious, public crimes to be prosecuted for.
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So the issue here is not that every cutpurse will run for high office. The issue here is that if we set the precedent that winning high office renders one immune to prosecution, we've incentivized a **lot** of law-breaking in order to land in high office...
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...and effectively infinite law-breaking in order to remain in high office. That's not a great set of norms to set in place. Once someone leaves office, there has to be accountability at some stage.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @ConsWahoo
Since we're talking incentives ... wouldn't this give people incentives not to leave office?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @asymmetricinfo ja @ConsWahoo
Only if we also conclude that the prosecution of a sitting president is unlawful - even in a state court. Something we've left undecided. But also - that's one really good reason to have firm constitutional term-limits for the presidency.
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Now I'd say I think the key in this situation is to absolutely not do what Cato the Younger did in 63-declare that the election was so absurdly corrupt that he'd prosecute whoever won If an AG takes the swing, it should be because they have clear evidence of criminal action.
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Prosecuting a former president should be uncommon. But I don't think it should be, a priori, verboten.
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