That doesn't change anything except in making it look even MORE partisan.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @asymmetricinfo ja @ConsWahoo
But isn't the reverse here setting the precedent that, once elected president, a person cannot be prosecuted for any crime? Seems like it'd attract the wrong kind of candidates. Some of this are crimes before he was in office or unrelated to his duties.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @ConsWahoo
We elect one president once every four years. I'm just not that worried about crime waves touched off by people whose escape plan is getting elected to the presidency.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @asymmetricinfo ja @ConsWahoo
I am not worried about local muggers running for office. What I am worried about is the 'Julius Caesar scenario': laws stop mattering in politics because holding office renders one (effectively or de jure) immune to prosecution.
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In the consular elections of 60BC, Caesar engaged in extensive bribery and corruption because he knew that once elected, he would be immune from prosecution in his consular year (consuls, by virtue of holding 'imperium' could not be prosecuted).
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Then, during his consulship, he did quite a bit more blatantly illegal action, because he had already arranged to be given a position with imperium the following year (a proconsular command in Gaul).
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Fast forward about a decade and Caesar is marching on Rome because political changes in Rome mean that he cannot secure another command with imperium, which means he's about to become a private citizen with literally ten years of obvious, public crimes to be prosecuted for.
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So the issue here is not that every cutpurse will run for high office. The issue here is that if we set the precedent that winning high office renders one immune to prosecution, we've incentivized a **lot** of law-breaking in order to land in high office...
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @ConsWahoo
The people who run for higher office are already pretty driven ... and there is the slight problem that you might not win, and in fact, probably won't.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @asymmetricinfo ja @ConsWahoo
I think the Roman example here is instructive though - Caesar wasn't the only one who tried this. Some of the efforts failed catastrophically (like Cataline, or Lepidus (cos. 78)). But, you know, Octavian became emperor.
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Clearly quite a lot of people were willing to roll those dice, even with very low chances of success. Which is why I think the president ought not be immune from prosecution in state courts in general. Along with impeachment, it creates systems to pump the brakes, as it were.
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