Machismo, for Eco, is the consequence of the need to have an external enemy (7&8), to live in permanent warfare (9) and thus to have contempt for weakness (10) and so cultivate the cult of the 'hero' (11). And here I think Eco has it exactly backwards. 6/23
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Machismo, the bloated over-extension of supposedly masculine strength in the absence of the restraints of honor, discipline or virtue (in the modern sense), is not the product of the ideology, it is the root. It is the core emotional pull - the rest is just to justify it. 7/23
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I think you made a mistake here. "Machismo" of your description, "fearless"/"contemptuous of death" dominance displays (bullying) make sense when the person feels secure about their survival. People who feel insecure about survival seek a champion or group they can be loyal to.
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Also, "fascist-leaning" or "democratic fascist" ideology does exist. A core claim is that social roles and their obligations are not chosen piecemeal but in large bundles, or outright inherited/born into. 2/?
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Contempt is directed not at all who are weak, but those who brought the ruin on their own heads. Those who are weak through no fault of their own deserve sympathy. (The need to sharply differentiate these two classes is why they suggest tying poverty relief to e.g. drug tests.)
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After all, under conditions of scarcity it is not merely unaffordable to help the reckless and the antisocial, but by actively encouraging their destructive habits, doing so would pose a risk even to those who behave conscientiously. 4/?
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A model I've found elegant (which also describes three other ideologies): https://everythingstudies.com/2019/03/25/the-tilted-political-compass-part-2-up-and-down/ … A separate hypothesis, focusing on the "aggressive mediocrity" of fascists supposes an unusually sharp discomfort with uncertainty. 5/?
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Rather than possess merit "individually", which would be subject to questioning, assume there is some essence—which cannot be taken away—which elevates the person (and everyone else in the defined group) over some other such group(s). 6/?
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Similarly, rather than look for factual truths—which may later turn out to have been mistakes—turn to mysticism. That is not merely unfalsifiable, but provides illegible justification, a smokescreen, behind which rewards can be safely restricted to those good at politicking. 7/?
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(This is in opposition to the meritocratic case, where rewards are given for transparent reasons and everyone meeting the publicly known criteria are supposed to receive them.) In fact, being rewarded despite poor performance is how the claims of superiority are reinforced. 8/8
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I think this is an interesting, even elegant, intellectual construct which doesn't, to my mind, bear much similarity to actual fascism, which not logically consistent at all, as Eco points out (I think he's right), because it isn't intellectualized, but rather emotive in nature
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Trying to understand ideologies rooted in Ur-Fascism from 'first principles' in a philosophical sense is doomed because - as Eco points out - there are no philosophical first principles, only emotional urges.
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If you want to understand fascism/Ur-Fascism, the only way is to begin not w/first principles, but w/emotive expressions (which are the actual point) and work backwards to their source. Any elegant explanation will be wrong, because human emotions are not intellectually elegant.
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