Drafting my next blog post. Sure is turning out a bit more ::L'internationale plays:: than I normally think about these things. Part of that is order-of-operations: all of the bad exploitative elites are in pt. 2, but the positive impacts of connectivity and markets are in pt. 3
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So breaking it up this way has been helpful in that sense in that it makes me think about the structures around pre-modern farming differently than I normally do (my research conditions me to think of surplus outputs enabling other activity) Both perspectives valid & important.
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Not really? Marxist 'labor theory of value' economics are - pardon me being blunt - pretty much worthless. They don't do a good job describing actual economic relations. Das Kapital is important as a historical document, but as an economic one, less so.
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That's not to say that other economic thinkers haven't hewn useful rock out of the mostly useless mountain of Das Kapital - they have. But I've never found the edifice itself useful.
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OFC I am not an economist, but a historian. So when I say useful, I mean "does this theory give me a template to help me to understand interactions in a historical society." Even Finley recognized that direct application to the ancient world didn't work, and he was hard Marxist
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Sigh. Lack of an edit button. Read as: "direct application [of a purely Marxist framework to the economy of the] ancient world didn't work" And the motion on the debate since Finley has been even further away from a Marxist view.
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Not a non-motive, just a motive that had to compete with other motives. This is something we cannot see perfectly; we're reliant on archaeology to see the small farmers. Some of them do produce for the market, when the market is available.
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But again, I think if you want to describe that, you have to talk about individual farms, production patterns, market patterns. I just don't see what surplus value theory has to offer me in that space. You're welcome to write the essay explaining what it has to offer!
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