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Been piling through Hollywood battle speeches for reference for the next blog and it is striking to me just how poor most of them are. Nearly all of the work is done by the soundtrack. Howard Shore or John Williams can make anything sound inspiring. But as speeches...eh?
I mean, obviously, any decent rendition of Henry V's St. Crispin's Day Speech is bound to be good, because of Shakespeare - but it's so clearly a speech set from the perspective after the battle, when the outcome is known. Death or defeat aren't considered possibilities.
But take Troy (2004), "Let no man forget how menacing we are" - how well is that going to work after your 'menacing' comrade takes an arrow to the face right next to you? Pretty sure everyone has had a parent tell them 'the animal is more scared of you than you are of it.'
I don't recall that ever making me feel better. And Gladiator (2000) "Think where you'll be in a week, unless you're dead, if then just lulz" - hardly encouraging?
And those are some of the better ones. So many of these damn movie battle speeches are basically football pep talks, "I'm with you, you got this, winning is fun, go get 'em!"
Bill Pullman in Independence Day
Also Viggo Mortensen in RotK
this one is halfway decent https://youtu.be/-7Sow81yi24?t=70 …
patton's speech to the 3rd army in george C scott film version
Good, in as much as it is based on a real set of speeches (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton%27s_speech_to_the_Third_Army …), bad in as much as Patton's exemplary profanity is largely removed. Also, I find myself less fond of Patton, and more of Ike, as time goes on and my thinking on war matures...
Personally I've always wondered about the "were all gonna die but its fine" speeches. Don't know a real example, almost by definition. Theoden's Battle Cry is one of those. Maybe the last Roman Emperor Constantine XI said something interesting. Wish I knew!
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