Oh, I am so up for that!
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @mewalters101 ja
Have anything pertinent on Rome?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @DrRobThompson, @mewalters101 ja
I can certainly talk about Roman pacification strategies in the provinces. Obviously the political and cultural environment is a lot different - Rome can 'get away' with a lot more brutal pacification in a situation where the 'norms of war' are more permissive.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @DrRobThompson ja
But at the same time, the total level of force for the Romans is a lot lower. No police forces, they are reliant on local (non-Roman) authorities in many cases. Flood-the-zone COIN for them is impossible, so they're forced to work through local agents.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @DrRobThompson ja
I suppose one could argue then that mass indiscriminate killings were partly a result of the prohibitive costs of intelligence collection?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @natkpowell, @DrRobThompson ja
Roman authorities often rely on local leaders for intelligence collection (this is clearest, ironically, in the persecution of Christians). I think the better way of seeing mass violence is 'exemplary violence' is one a in the Roman toolbox. pour encourager les autres.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @natkpowell ja
And the Romans tend to pick targets for such violence - and even commemorate such violence - in ways that I think clearly intend to communicate that to other members of the same group or other groups.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @natkpowell ja
Like the IUDAEA CAPTA coins, which commemorated the very violent suppression of the First Jewish Revolt (66-73), which were minted and distributed, pretty much empire wide - but *especially* in Judaea itself as a warning.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @DrRobThompson ja
Man, Josephus provides such a vivid narrative of the way military occupation interacts with creates/accelerates local civil war dynamics. There's a lot in there with contemporary relevance.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @natkpowell, @DrRobThompson ja
Very much so, though I think with Josephus it is important to keep in mind that the province of Judaea was very much an odd outlier in being such a failure of Roman control. Major revolts against Roman rule were pretty rare.
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It also occurs to me, in this moment, talking about the process by which the Roman Senate and later emperors sought - haltingly and without full success - to hold their provincial governors responsible for the use of force in the provinces might be something to speak to.
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