This. The Roman Peace was neither Roman, nor peaceful.https://twitter.com/jpnudell/status/1266148060725420038 …
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @MykeCole
Yes, but it is possible for the Pax Romana to not be terribly peaceful (by modern standards) and at the same time represent a reduction in overall levels of violence. Just going by demographic evidence, it very likely was the latter - a relative, if not absolute, peace.
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BretDevereaux
Is this anecdotal or supported by statistical analysis of data? Was the Julian-Trajanic period numerically less violent than the Republican or Marian eras?
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @MykeCole
Nature of the evidence makes statistical comparisons of deaths impossible - too many battles without casualty reports, or where casualty reports are unreliable. But use militarization (% pop under arms per year) as a proxy, and yes, supported by data.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @MykeCole
Could you use length of battle as a proxy for casualty reports?
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That information is actually less likely to be reported in our sources than the casualties. But also - lots of confounding variables. Length of engagement not clearly related to casualty figures.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @MykeCole
Interesting. I figured that would be more likely reported because you’d get contemporaneous accounts. I was actually questioning if casualties is the right figure. It feels like it introduces complications, like tactics. I was hoping that was mitigated somewhat with length.
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Contemporaneous accounts for ancient battles are quite rare. Even long-after-the-fact eyewitness testimony is rare and valuable. Far more common that we are dealing with a condensed report by a non-eyewitness of official records/eyewitness testimony, often at centuries distance
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux ja @MykeCole
Cool! Thanks for helping me understand this better. I didn’t learn to love history until late in life, and I’ve never really studied these periods.
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Better late than never! Ancient history is a strange creature because our sources are so few and so poor. The contrast I use with my students is that the modern historian has to sip water from a firehouse, the ancient historian finds water in the desert.
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And what sort of information gets preserved and what gets lost is somewhat random, somewhat inflected by culture - but by a culture fundamentally different than ours. In my own experience, even professional modern historians are consistently surprised by what does not survive.
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And by what does survive!
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