Military and Milhist twitter - question! I am aware of the debate around risk compensation in automotive safety (meaning make the car safer, drivers speed up, 'consuming' the safety). Are there studies of this re: modern body armor?
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BretDevereaux
I would think there has to be something out there that pushed the army from the IBA I wore on my first tour (Iraq) to the IOTV that I wore my second tour (AF) to the light plate carrier I wore the third tour (AF).
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @rfmwilliams ja @BretDevereaux
Many individual infantry units had unofficial SOPs to lighten their loads, especially the IOTV in Afghanistan to handle the terrain. I think what's most interesting is how developments in the field like this influenced "big army" decisions about equipment.
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Off the top of my head I can think of shoulder pockets, light plate carriers, civilian hiking boots, and even the OCP camouflage pattern driven by unit driven changes that wound up affecting big army load out for people deploying, especially to Afghanistan
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When I went in 2011/12 we took IOTVs and plate carriers with us. Gunners or drivers wore the IOTV and the gunner had to wear the shoulder protectors as well. The idea being they were more susceptible to blast injuries and not expected to move on foot
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Another factor has to also be modern combat casualty care being better at keeping the average wounded soldier alive than ever before
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That’s my 2 cents from personal experience.
@Jaylikestohike was with me in 07/08 and served at even higher levels so he may have some knowledge on actual army studies on the subject1 vastaus 0 uudelleentwiittausta 0 tykkäystä -
Vastauksena käyttäjille @rfmwilliams ja @BretDevereaux
There was an effort between AWG and Peo Soldier back in 2010 called the Soldiers Load study. Scientific assessments were conducted and a unit from 4th ID in the Pech was chosen as the test bed. It proved lighter equipment= more effective Soldiers. Each SM was given
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Jaylikestohike ja @BretDevereaux
Custom top of the line equipment from all brand name co. The issue became $$ and politics.....Anytime you try to outfit Conv Troops, people rise up throughout US to oppose because they lose $ and jobs. I’m sure you can find some unclass stuff online - search AWG soldiers load
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Indeed, fascinating stuff. In my case, I am looking at an instance (because pre-modern armor) where coverage improved without a dramatic increase in weight or lost mobility So it's less IBA vs. IOTV vs. LPC and more behavior changes of 'anything vs. nothing' that I'm focused on
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @BretDevereaux
The lighter loads definitely made Soldiers more lethal and able to respond to threats better in the mountains. I think you also have to take the CDRs desire to increase risk vs less protection. Its a constant fight.
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