I understand the basic admin headache... But do we have actual examples where it caused significant problems? Orders issued to wrong unit in a battle or campaign, or pay not getting to a unit, etc?
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @neilbaumgardner ja @NeilaB8
It wasn't only that. The USV system was a horrible mess, relying on state governments to do more work than they really could. It also erased the issues between USV officers and Regular officers, about primacy of rank. Federal funding went to NG units to bring them to the...
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Vastauksena käyttäjälle @pptsapper
Sure. But did numbering have to follow that? It's not like we're the only country in the world that had different numbering schemes and eventually standardized training and ranks. Others... didnt seem to find renumbering necessary...
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @neilbaumgardner ja @NeilaB8
You understand that the regimental numbering system, both state and federal, were always in flux until 1916, correct? They changed. A lot. Within states. By war. And we're by no means the only Army to do it. Look at France and England. England's erased half their old regiments
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @pptsapper ja @NeilaB8
The Romans numbered legions by consular sequence (so each consul/pro-magistrate might start at I and have legions II, III and so on). When those became permanent formations, the system was kept such that there were 2 IIIs, 2 IVs at one point *four* Legio IIs...
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Only under the Empire. The Republic would reassign numbers, raising & disbanding legions in a regular basis. Thus Julius Caesar’s favored Legio X had little association with the Legiones X of the Empire.
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Caesar's Legio X is the Imperial Leg. X Gemina, sometimes called Leg. X Equestris after the famous bit with the horses in Gaul. It has a bull as its emblem to explicitly advertise Caesarian origin (he was a Taurus).
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @llywrch ja
Leg X. Gemina was formed in 59, in Gaul 58-49, Spain in 49, was at Pharsalus and Thapsus, was disbanded in 46-5 (probably settled at Narbo), but re-raised to fight at Munda (45), reformed (possibly by Lepidus), served at Philippi and Actium under Antony; continued into the empire
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @llywrch ja
Served in Spain under Augustus. Although it is a touch out of date on some legionary histories (e.g. Leg. V Alaudae), you may find Keppie, The Making of the Roman Army (1984) helpful in tracing civil war and imperial legions.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @llywrch ja
Note that Leg. X Gemina/Equestris is *not* the same legion as Leg. X Fretensis.
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Vastauksena käyttäjille @BretDevereaux, @llywrch ja
But yes, one of the Legiones X of the Empire does in fact have quite a bit of relationship to Caesar's favorite legion, given that it is, in fact, the same formation.
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