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Vastauksena käyttäjille @Joshua_A_Tait ja @NickBurns
I disagree quite strongly with this take. I don't think it grapples with just how intensely the vastness of the helots undermines any argument about Spartan 'freedom' which was underwritten by the (brutalized) labor of slaves to greater degree than even Roman libertas.
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For comparison, estimates put the number of non-free persons in Roman Italy around 1-in-3. The helots were by contrast were probably something like 20 out of every 23 people in Sparta.
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It's one thing to talk about a concept of freedom which doesn't extend fully to a significant minority of the population. But it is another thing entirely to talk about it in the context of a society which brutally enslaves the *vast majority* of its humans.
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For instance, why should we give Sparta any credit for its freer women? What does it matter than the top 10% of Spartan women could do athletics, if that required the bottom 90% to be brutalized and enslaved?
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While I'm here, I'd also content that Burn's reliance on Constant blurs the distinctions between the Greek concepts of autonomia and eleutheria and doesn't really fully capture the complexities of Greek notions of freedom (though I prefer libertas to both).
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