Brandon Fugal

3 RB: "they're just describing to you what it is. And it's exactly what you requested. And you do it again. And you do it again. And there are different kinds of things that are showing up as what you requested and they're telling you this on the telephone." ~Robert Bigelow

5 Robert Bigelow: "I got very disturbed, toward the end, about something that happened to some of the government people. And I realized...uh...holy crap. Knapp: "Hitchhikers." RB: "Umm. Well, yeah. Hitchhikers, being that you take things home with you. Everybody took things

6 RB: "home with them. I took things to my house. Things happened to my wife & to me. Different things. But we didn't know that...gee, it was like, gonna be kind of permanent. We didn't know that it's gonna stay with u maybe for years & years or the rest of your life, who knows?

7 RB: "But the ones that bothered me a lot, where anybody got hurt, or really disturbed - not that it happened on the ranch - it was when they left the ranch, like you say, hitchhikers. And these were government people & it affected them." GK: "In very dramatic ways."

8: RB: "Very dramatic ways. Very dramatic ways. And there's a cousin 2 that that we're facing but it's abated, at least 4 now. And this other survival topic, right? Very dramatic kind of things, that we wanted 2 have reduced or stopped. (I'm not sure what he's saying there. ~Joe)

9 RB: "But going back 2 the gov't people...the buyer (Fugal) came along @ the right time. I had decided I wanted 2 take it off my plate, tone it down & if necessary, just lock it up & forget about it. Next thing I know, the buyer comes along & the rest is history" ~Robert Bigelow

10 Thanks to George sharing some of this in the past, we knew some of the NIDS folks (and Bigelow's wife) took "stuff" home with them but we didn't know Mr. B was part of that & we didn't know that it's still going on. Wow. Yeah, I'll continue my stance of no trips to the ranch.