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autistic/trans/queer lady with a deep,desperate desire to create. she/her.ex-academic looking for a career change, and hoping to relocate soon to the Pacific NW

Richland Center, WI
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    1.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      That one's just six minutes, but it has multiple movements and a pause for a monologue, which are really common signifiers of Tuomas is Sad Songs Here's the next well known one, from 2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90oF1eD6UQk … That one reminds me STRONGLY of a recording of Velveteen Rabbit>

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    2.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      that I listened to as a kid. This one is also a lot less thirstier than most of these, and establishes the metaphor that Tuomas is "the dead boy,"which continues to be used in interesting ways (previously he's been known as "the ocean born")

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    3.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      The next epic song they did was almost forgotten, it's creepy as hell (TW for an abstract reference to rape which I think is just Tuomas looking for the most extreme word he can think of for an abstract bad thing in English) and its also really good IMOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJEJ6kcyss4 …

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    4.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      Like the first song, Beauty AND the Beast, Beauty OF the Beast is clearly an attempted seduction song, and like I said, it's creepy given that he put a Phantom of the Opera cover right before it.

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    5.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      Tuomas continues having people singing about how he can't be happy and is very sad on the subsequent album, 2005's Once, the last album with Tarja Turunen and recorded while she was planning to leave HMM THISSONG IS ABUT SOMEONE WHO'S ABOUT TO LEAVE YOU HMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3yqMr3ffY …

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    6.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      As I mentioned, they fired founding member and vocalist Tarja Turunen, who I've always suspected most of the Tuomas is sad songs and albums in general were *about* despite her being the person singing most of the words Tuomas got REALLY sad.

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    7.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      Tuomas got so sad that he reportedly spent several weeks watching the Shyamalan movie The Village and doing nothing else

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    8.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      then he wrote this, which I think is a legit masterpiece and perhaps the apex of prog rock archetypicalness (tw for another metaphorical rape reference that should probably have been omitted but was worse in the first draft)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ntHpYocc0 …

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    9.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      Then comes the infamous song with the elevator creepiness, but also with some beautiful, beautiful vocals. It's the last studio recording they did with Annette Olson, the best vocalist they ever had (invite dog pile from Tarja and Floor partisans here)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoa1lQmq6lI …

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    10.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      Finally, this Imo absolutely terrible (and I would say this even if fucking Richard Fucking Dawkins wasn't Fucking Narrating this fucking thing) song which is over 20 minutes long, with their new vocalist who is not a good fit for them IMOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJb3xwtpmmc …

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       🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

      So anyway, some interesting notes about this: - most of the Tuomas Is Sad songs, excepting Dead Boy's Poem, are explicitly addressed to a possible love interest who seems not to reciprocate - they read like someone who's slightly good at poetry on /r/incel - i love them

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        1.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          I say, most except Dead Boy's Poem. I meant "most up to and including Ghost Love Score." After Ghost Love Score, he does two songs that are like Dead Boy's Poem and about being sad and dead, probably metaphorically.

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        2.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          - I started listening with Poet and the Pendulum, having listened to the album with Ghost Love Score years before and not gotten into it at the time, so I have a strong preference for Nightwish from 2007-2013

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        3.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          - There's also an album by Tuomas in between the last one with Annette (Imagenaerum) and the shitty one with Dawkins (Endless Forms Most Beautiful), which is about Scrooge McDuck. It's extremely good.

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        4.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          - I've been to Tuomas's house and met his dad. I didn't ask - I was in town to see the Nightwish museum, but unsolicited, his high school piano teacher, who sometimes gives tours, gave me and my friend a tour of all sorts of places, including *Tuomas's fucking house*

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        5.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          Oh yeah, also both former vocalists of Nightwish - Tarja, who was fired in 2005, and Annette, who was fired in 2013 - have gone on to solo careers. Tarja has had more success than Annette, who is a sweet person who deserves much better

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        6.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          But the thing I find interesting is that they each developed a tendency to refer back to Nightwish in songs, while publicly denying that's what they were doing

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        7.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          It's slightly deniable with Annette, who *could* be talking about some other group of friends who lied to her about things and then cast her aside in the song Lies, but... well.

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        8.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          (She's said things on Instagram about "hey, I REALLY APPROVE of this anti-workplace sexism stuff.I had a really bad workplace like this, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHERE")

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        9.  🦋this action will have  👻 spooky 👻 consequences 🦋‏ @BootlegGirl Jan 30

          Tarja, on the other hand, has lyrics like this: "Look up, look up, it's an angel in the snow [reference to an early NW song] Look up, look up, it's a frightened dead boy! [reference to the character Tuomas uses for himself]"

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