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Executive Director, @ETCCooperative | Community - @ethereum, @hyperledger, @crypto_chicks | Bi-Ethereal Etherwalker | There is no official anything in ETC

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    1. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      This is something we'll have to sort out with Rocket Labs if they want to get enterprise adoption for Avalanche. 5/12

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    2. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      This can all come across as a hassle to devs who just want to work together on code, share ideas, and not be a part of the IP industrial complex. This is the kind of anger that leads to MIT-licensed code, or WTFPL, or even nil copyright notice on code. 6/12

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    3. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      All of that presents a danger to end users. If you don't care about your end users, fine, put out code or specs with terms that don't protect them from potential abusers who would use your good will as subterfuge for their ends. Kudos to Bob for caring about ETC users. 7/12

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    4. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      But: code development and standards are different. DCOs and licenses attach to code and protect you from the code's authors. But standards are often the result of conversations and other interactions well beyond code. 8/12

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    5. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      For that reason, standards bodies have typically bonded all participants in a standards discussion to an IP agreement, especially in earlier days. They will also ask their members to signal if they have any IP rights in a standard before that standard is declared final. 9/12

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    6. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      But that's likely not practical in an EIP and ECIP setting, where even if you require non-anonymous authors, you want public input and don't want to burden every potential reviewer with revealing their real name. 10/12

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    7. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      There is clearly grey area here between the two; most standards specifications these days look and are built a whole lot like code. And even code development can incorporate ideas from discussions or other informal channels. 11/12

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    8. brianbehlendorf‏ @brianbehlendorf Nov 2
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      Replying to @brianbehlendorf @BobSummerwill and

      So this issue affects not only standards processes, but potentially open/public code development processes down the road. I'm not clear on what even the case law is right now on this, but the CW-as-Satoshi thing should make us all particularly wary. 12/12

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    9. Bob Summerwill‏ @BobSummerwill Nov 2
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      Thanks for all the input, Brian! And the CW-as-Satoshi thing is not just theoretical. The trigger for me to look to tighten ETC's IP policies is ProgPOW, whose only non-anon author @OhGodAGirl has strong links to the CW / Ayre group - the same bad actorshttps://bobsummerwill.com/2019/09/17/progpow-author-kristy-leigh-minehan-uninvited-from-etc-summit/ …

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    10. Bob Summerwill‏ @BobSummerwill Nov 2
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      The other two coauthors remain anonymous, and as per Kristy a group of around 40 anons have contributed in various ways (whether "hard" or "soft"). None of these actors will be bound to any CLA or DCO. To my knowledge, this will be first EIP accepted into Ethereum from anons.

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      Bob Summerwill‏ @BobSummerwill Nov 2
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      And it is a change to the most economically critical element of Ethereum - the POW algorithm - with this change steering perhaps ~$1B worth of economic activity per year. How this EIP can be passed boggles my mind. Truly. IP risk. Economic risk. Bad actor association. 🤮

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