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The Contact Hypothesis is a Mess: Thread 1/n The Contact Hypothesis (hence, "CH") is an old idea in social psych: That contact between groups reduces prejudice. This was one central theme of Allport's 1954 classic The Nature of Prejudice, built on even earlier ideas.
Yesterday I went to a talk by a Lithuanian writer about the Holocaust in Lithuania. Jews lived in Lithuania since at least the 14th century. This didn't prevent the Lithuanians from murdering over 90%, roughly 200,000, of them in the second half of 1941.
Maybe because they Lithuanians notes who were in the Cheka and NKVD?
The writer's book says that in May 1941, Russians [the term is "Russophones", so it probably includes Ukrainians etc.] made up 52.2% of the state security apparatus, Lithuanians 32.2%, Jews 16.6%. That the NKVD was made up of Jews is anti-Semitic slander.
That Jews were wildly overrepresented in the NKVD is historical fact. Are facts antisemitic?
The 1923 census of Lithuania found 7.6% of Jews. The 1940 borders were bigger, and included the city of Vilnius; about 10% of the population of Lithuania in the 1940 borders was Jewish. Your "wildly overrepresented" is anti-Semitic slander, not a historical fact.
You’ve already admitted that they were overrepresented; now you’re just arguing about how much. Oy vey, how antisemitic of you! Acknowledging the fact that Jews were overrepresented in the NKVD! The ADL won’t like this one bit. Say, what are the numbers for the whole USSR?
How are the numbers for Ryazan or Tashkent or Tbilisi relevant to the Holocaust in Lithuania?
They’re relevant to my claim that Jews were wildly overrepresented in the NKVD, which you have characterized as “antisemitic slander,” most likely knowing you were lying as you typed the words.
I am now reading the book "Mūsiškiai" (Ours; Our People) by Rūta Vanagaitė and Efraim Zuroff. I copy-pasted statistics from the book with a source. Do you have any reasons to doubt it?
If we are to believe the writer I heard yesterday, under German occupation the Lithuanians rebuilt the pre-Soviet annexation government the best they could, and this government enthusiastically killed the Jews in order to claim the country's place in the Nazi New Order.
She also said that this government looted the property of the dispossessed Jews and gave it to orphanages, old folks' homes and the like, with broad societal support. None of this was publicized either under the Soviets in 1944-1990 or in the post-1990 independent Lithuania.
So, to get back to Lee's tweet about the Contact Hypothesis: the history of the Holocaust in Lithuania (and in most of the rest of Europe) clearly proves it wrong.
Wasn’t it the Germans who murdered the Jews?
In Lithuania, no.
Actually, throughout much of Nazi Occupied Eastern Europe, more from the local populations than Germans usually actively engaged in the killing. http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/the-dark-continent-hitler-s-european-holocaust-helpers-a-625824.html …pic.twitter.com/pNmQZgMVzH
Now that's interesting. In Bulgaria, also Slav, also nazi ally we had pushback from authorities and when they succumbed the population went out in the streets and prevented the deportation.
Lithuania isn't Slav. I am not sure to which extent the Nazis considered the Balts (Lithuanians and Latvians) untermenschen like the Slavs, and to which fellow uebermenschen.
Oh, they were in that plan where Moscow becomes a lake, trust me. And not in the role of the colonizers-Hitler specifically underlines how this is land he needs so Germans can breed freely.
Only equals according to Hitler were Scandinavians and Brits.
I am now reading a book by this writer, which I bought at the talk, and she talks about Lithuanian politicians allying the country with Germany. Surely, this wasn't how Germans treated the Poles or the Czechs, let alone the Russians.
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